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Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Durandal - 09-03-2012
' Wrote:Ultimately, the Zephyr doesnt really need terribly different stats.
In 85, it had 14 turrets, 600,000 hull, 1600 cargo, and 7mil core, and 1600 b\b
in 86, 14 turrets are fine, assuming the split gives two heavy slots, four prims, and 8 secondaries. while the cargo is fine, buffing it by 200 would be nice.
And of course, 4 docking module slots, and spaces for survey modules, and jump drives.
Hull, well, adding a hundred k would be great, but I wont push our luck. I have to imagine were trading hull for shape and agility. And ultimately, thats the Zephyr's best traits.
The hull has always needed a buff to make it even marginally useful in combat. I'd knock it up to 800,000 or maybe even 900,000 if I were doing the balancing. Cargo buff'd be nice too.
Anyway, what'd suit the CR best in my personal opinion is a new battleship or carrier that isn't the Kronos, but that's not possible without retcons and I happen to hate those with a passion. So, Zeph it is I guess.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Dashiell - 09-03-2012
Voted Zephyr all the way. My reasons for doing so can be found in the other thread.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Syrus - 09-03-2012
Yes
Yes
Zephyr
Even though, as I stated before, I like the Kronos, it looks and feels like a real heavy battleship, I'd very much prefer to get back the Zephyr with some more balanced (improved) stats. My suggestion is more armor (~850'000-900'000) and "normal bots" (1600, like almost all others) - so it's on par with the Aquilon. Keeping its size in mind.
Power core stays as it is, 7 mio. It's a carrier.
Wiki:
Zephyr (old)
Kronos
Aquilon
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - RedEclipse - 09-03-2012
As Zoner Trading Consortium has been finished Leonardo role play, which is all about Kronos I'd like as leader of Phoenix (faction follower of ZTC) atleast leave Kronos in game.
Entirely RP suggestion, usually I don't use caps as PvP machine.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Mao - 09-03-2012
Why replace Kronos with Zephyr when you can just have 2 ships with different roles. RPing the Kronos as a not-so-great prototype that was made in a hurry prior to the evac of Tau-44. If so many people prefer the Zephyr, Kronos numbers would be low, which would be good for that particular role play. Kronos is a nice model and it wouldn't be nice to have it erased from the mod just because some players wish that.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Hades - 09-03-2012
The Kronos is frankly, an ugly, blockly, pleasure toy, but the Zephyr isn't much prettier, being a run over chicken (in terms of shape). They've both got fairly mediocre modeling too, which I noticed after studying them up close.
Either way, I'm a bit bored and might be interested in remodeling either one, depending on which is used, to be of higher quality. Just so it isn't uglying up my space.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Mao - 09-03-2012
You could try to merge the 2 concepts and see what comes up. Maybe it will be something that beats both.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Ursus - 09-03-2012
zephyr looks phoney with that shape, same problem as the gunboat, but at least right now they look phoney in the same way
kronos should be shrunk and used to replace the atlas, which is another phoney model
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - AeternusDoleo - 09-03-2012
' Wrote:Why replace Kronos with Zephyr when you can just have 2 ships with different roles. RPing the Kronos as a not-so-great prototype that was made in a hurry prior to the evac of Tau-44. If so many people prefer the Zephyr, Kronos numbers would be low, which would be good for that particular role play. Kronos is a nice model and it wouldn't be nice to have it erased from the mod just because some players wish that.The Colonial Remnant does not need 2 battleship class ships. It's shipline is already quite extensive. The choice that the playerbase is given is to choose between the Zephyr and the Kronos - wether or not to revert to using the Zeph, or to continue to use the Kronos.
So far it looks like the playerbase is in favor of reverting to the Zephyr (after turretsplit) and a slight rebalance.
[Edit] Oh, and the Atlas is also getting a tweak-up. Those two balls in the center are replaced with an actual hull.
Poll - Kronos or Zephyr? - Dane Summers - 09-03-2012
I agree - the Colonial Republic does not need two heavy class ships - by the rp, we can't support them anyway.
Assuming the Zephyr gets a rebalance, My wish is for it to be a slight tweak here and there. More then anything, I don't want the Zep to lose its trademark agility. Balance team works on a tit for tat basis, and when you get something, you gotta give just as hard. What we want the Zep to have is its agility and the ability to function as both a full carrier and a jumpship - something maybe to rival the Aquillon in its ability to be the perfect jumpship. And, like I suggested earlier, at least 14 turrets, split for two heavies, four prims, and 8 secondaries, a small bump to hull, and maybe a small bump to regens, and 200 more cargo, four docking modules. *shrug* assuming thats reasonable.
Oh yeah, almost forgot - damn cool on the Atlas - while I grew to love how it looks now, that doesn't mean I'm not interested to see some change.
If you have any pic's on the change, please send 'em to me on skype, I'm interested to see 'em:)