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RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Karst - 11-24-2014
Okay then. Let me tell my side of this story.
You've summarized it pretty well already - the IMG / UC convoy I was escorting was stopped by the officer as usual.
My character started becoming annoyed at what she perceived to be an unnecessarily long scan, though we immediately explained our cargo and destination.
When he then started interrogating the Corse for what seemed like no reason, she got snappy and accused him of unnecessarily making things difficult for the convoy.
Eventually they were allowed to pass, while the officer demanded I pay a fine. Of course I had no intention of doing so, as my character was merely speaking her mind on how the officer was doing his business.
When he then effectively threatened to take her by force, in an escape pod if necessary, to Vierlande, that was too much.
The officer had clearly stated his intentions to attack if she did not comply, and she had clearly stated that she would not.
The engagement was going to happen anyway, but I was going to be the one that had the first shot.
Overreaction on her part? Sure, but that's how this character is.
(11-24-2014, 12:57 PM)Hauler Wrote: Second a trader has no right to shoot not even a pirate if the pirate did not opened fire on his ship lowering his shield down to 50%.?
This is not true at all. Unlike what many people seem to think, there has never been a need for an "engagement notice", only for sufficient roleplay prior to an attack.
And I do believe there was plenty of roleplay prior to this one.
If one party has already declared their intent to attack the other, they do not have to wait to be shot at first. And why would they.
Frankly I think the officer was waaaay out of line to threaten to take a civilian, particularly the president of a major national company, to a notorious prison by force for a mere perceived insult.
If you want to roleplay a police officer being as annoying as possible, fine. That seems to be RFP's style and that's their choice.
But if you take it that far something like this is going to happen.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Hauler - 11-24-2014
As i said you can say you are defence minister if you like you are threating to get officers *butt* that's a threat to an officer than acusing of incompetence constantly interfiering in comunication betwen Corse ship and RFP making my job dificult as posible enough for me that you obstructed my job there refusing to obey the orders of police officer just because you think otherwise also another violation so yeah 500.000 credits were just simbolic thing what you could be fined for aswell.
I never stated opening fire and that i'm going to shot you i was asking questions will you pay the fine and if you dont pay you will be hauled in the life pod if necesery that was Role Playing my next sentence could be totaly diferent our entire RP encounter might be ending in other direction not necesery to be fighting but in the end you asked me a *Question* wich i never gave an answer on am i going to haul you to the prison and afther your unanswered question on wich i never was gave a chance to answer i was snacked.
You are here loong enough to know the rules and also to try to bend them in your own favour i can see that clearly.
It is clear if i dont open fire at you we just do RPing threats or such, that can not be taken as an atack cause atack is lowering shield less than 50% and i never fire not even single shoot at you.
I could Role Play with you all day if i whanted and make diferent kind of demands and requests or even threats if i did not opened fire on you and atacked you with my guns lowering your shield down to 50% you can not shot not even a pirate especialy the character who is allied to your own faction because in the end i could change my role play in to other direction and you just denied me that by instakiling me with no engagement notice.
Quote:3.1 An attack is any hostile action that drains shields to less than 50%. Saying "Engaging" is not sufficient and aggressors are not allowed to destroy a ship before allowing sufficient time to respond. If a player is attacked he has the right to defend himself regardless of who is attacking. Trading nanobots, shieldbatteries or other ammo and equipment during a fight is also considered taking an active role in the engagement.
What part of this you dont understand ?
Betwen you and me there was Role Playing not atacking each others wich means i never atacked you and you have right to defend yourself only if i atacked you with and lowered your shield
Quote:If a player is attacked he has the right to defend himself regardless of who is attacking.
And atacking is
Quote:3.1 An attack is any hostile action that drains shields to less than 50%.
You see my friend i was never atacking you i was only role playing with you, but you atacked me.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Karst - 11-24-2014
I've explained why I did what I did, not much point in going back and forth about it.
If you feel there was a rule violation, submit a report.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - ~Z~ - 01-02-2015
Do not get me wrong, I do not want to risk my application on ALG. But after reading this
(01-02-2015, 11:15 AM)ALG Wrote:
Group Name: ALG Waste Disposal
Group ID and IFF: ALG
Group Tag: [ALG]-
Wanted Goods (type or specific): various industrial
Goods to offer (type or specific): various industrial
Comments: As the Taus are one of ALG Waste Disposal's main areas of operation, our company seeks to exploit every possible new business opportunity in the sector.
![[Image: IPcVwTV.png]](http://i.imgur.com/IPcVwTV.png)
I am getting myself ?? If i read the ALG faction information i see this picture:
![[Image: ALGZoI_zps248b8acf.png]](http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/TheSynergys/Discovery/ALG/ALG%20Informations%20Page/ALGZoI_zps248b8acf.png)
I wonder what I did miss when I read and wrote that apply for ALG? You clearly say this is a main area of operations? Are the ALG moving out of Rheinland?
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - WesternPeregrine - 01-02-2015
I guess they mean that since they are the only ones in the business of Toxic waste and such, it makes them more of a Trans-Sirius corporation than just a Rheinlandic one. So unless everyone does its part and goes deliver the waste to Rheinland, ALG are the ones that have to go collect it.
This is just a personal view, so you should see what ALG as to say for itself.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Karst - 01-04-2015
(01-02-2015, 01:05 PM)~Z~ Wrote: Do not get me wrong, I do not want to risk my application on ALG. But after reading this
(01-02-2015, 11:15 AM)ALG Wrote:
Group Name: ALG Waste Disposal
Group ID and IFF: ALG
Group Tag: [ALG]-
Wanted Goods (type or specific): various industrial
Goods to offer (type or specific): various industrial
Comments: As the Taus are one of ALG Waste Disposal's main areas of operation, our company seeks to exploit every possible new business opportunity in the sector.
I am getting myself ?? If i read the ALG faction information i see this picture:
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I wonder what I did miss when I read and wrote that apply for ALG? You clearly say this is a main area of operations? Are the ALG moving out of Rheinland?
WPeregrine is pretty much right on this matter. ALG operates pretty much everywhere in Sirius, although there are certain hotspots. These include Rheinland, Texas, and everywhere the IMG operates, as they are our main allies.
Thus the Taus and Omegas also being "main areas of operation".
As a side note, our faction information page is rather out of date, so don't rely on everything you see there.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Mímir - 01-14-2015
Hi I was that Odin y'all just ganked, after the dude of yours I had been fighting for quite a while lagged out. They were slowly winning in the 2 v 1; I don't know why you felt like you had to pile everything on to one target, spamming missiles and so on?
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Jayce - 01-14-2015
(01-14-2015, 09:46 PM)Mímir Wrote: Hi I was that Odin y'all just ganked, after the dude of yours I had been fighting for quite a while lagged out. They were slowly winning in the 2 v 1; I don't know why you felt like you had to pile everything on to one target, spamming missiles and so on?
Don't fly unlawfuls near missile gunboats, especially after the Hessians decided to gank 2 Gunboats with 2 Cruisers, 2 Gunboats, and a feeding Battleship.
Oh, and bombers.
And fighters.
And a Corsair GB.
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Kauket - 01-14-2015
uhmm, maybe don't help the remaining hessians that were getting swarmed from losing in the first place and you wouldn't get swarmed????
RE: ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread - Mímir - 01-14-2015
So am I to understand that that is [ALG] doctrine? Don't get near you when in a snub, even though you field snubs yourselves?
I was alone, not grouped with anyone and pretty occupied in a duel with two of your VHF's. Your first guy even lagged out when I was having the upper hand, it would have been nice if you either waited for him or provided at least the illusion of a fair fight, seeing that I just wasted a whole lot of my regens draining someone that lagged out.