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RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - JayDee Kasane - 05-29-2013
Current Storm GB is great looking ship. It only have minor change in model. Typhoon is ugly piece of scrap metal, but it going to be turned into nice looking cruiser. So as SCRA member and leader, I consider this topic to be about snubs only.
But again, I will wait for 4.87 before making any kind of actions towards snub models. I even hope that I will not need to at all.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Anaximander - 05-29-2013
Even if they are cruddy ships that due to the model will never be on a level with "proper" PVP-faction ships, it would be nice if you could buy them at Heisenberg and fly them on a FL ID, just for their looks. Like you can get surplus Russian WW2 tanks in some places.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - JayDee Kasane - 05-29-2013
(05-29-2013, 04:40 PM)Anaximander Wrote: Even if they are cruddy ships that due to the model will never be on a level with "proper" PVP-faction ships, it would be nice if you could buy them at Heisenberg and fly them on a FL ID, just for their looks. Like you can get surplus Russian WW2 tanks in some places.
Or to have em sold on Sevastopol Depot in O52 as option for Coalition indies and SCRA members.
They dont look like something that Freelancers should fly on.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Tabris - 05-29-2013
Those ships are gone, they were made GONE for GOOD reasons. One, they were BROKEN, two, our RP had to move fowards and we as a faction had to evolve rather than remain stale forever and three it's realistic, even the Russians phased out old equipment for new equipment in the Army. XD
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Alan Martins - 05-29-2013
(05-29-2013, 06:05 PM)Tabris Wrote: Those ships are gone, they were made GONE for GOOD reasons. One, they were BROKEN, two, our RP had to move fowards and we as a faction had to evolve rather than remain stale forever and three it's realistic, even the Russians phased out old equipment for new equipment in the Army. XDyet they didn't upgrade with garbage,did they?
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Tabris - 05-29-2013
Our current ships were designed by Alvin and whatever hands he had. Wasn't my personal choice but the .87 ships SHOULD take care of alot of the ugliness and workability issues we've been having.
Let the Dead Remain Dead.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Narcotic - 05-29-2013
I actually liked the old coalition ships. The submarine cruiser included.
Someone would just have to balance them properly.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - ChillerMiller - 05-29-2013
The old Insurgent was such an amazing ship.
I want it back Q________________Q
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Alan Martins - 05-29-2013
just please,no forum rioting.
RE: Bring Back Old Coalition Ships! - Aphil - 05-29-2013
It's interesting that some of the people who want it back have never flown them into combat. While I admit, they were good looking and distinctive, people do not realize just how poor they were in combat. To tell the SCRA to bring back the old ships, without ever having flown them in combat with us is silly.
The current ship line was/is plagued with a number of issues ranging from miscommunication, to misbalancing when it came to its development. The textures are old wrong, the Insurgent is using a model that was designed for an SCRA Heavy Fighter instead of a VHF (Which led to it being "balanced" to turn worse than a Titan), the Model for the Destroyer is atrocious and should have been different and so on.
In 4.87, our ship line is expected to be properly balanced so our Insurgents don't turn worse than Titans and have the appropriate model, our Destroyers have brand new models, our Storm has a new tail and so on. It is our hope that in 4.87, the problems that have plagued us in 4.86 will be gone and people will start to appreciate the hard work that Alvin and everyone involved in the XKR line put in. To ask that this hard work be swept away because of nostalgia for a terrible old ship line is disrespectful.
In short, we will not be going back to the old ships ever and in 4.87 when our ship line is finally what is was meant to be, people will most likely forget the 4.85 ships.