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Discovery Economy Reformation - Dusty Lens - 04-04-2010
Eh.
In terms of ore and piracy I've worked it from a number of angles.
In the omega days of this release of the mining mod I participated in, to my amazement, the most profoundly successful experiment ever in the form of pirating miners who still treating the process like solo traders. I have no idea how much money we made in two week. Some couple billion I bet. Funny thing was that if any of those miners had a single bomber we ran away. Was funny.
Also had a Corsair I built from scratch. Again, miners didn't have any escorts. Ever. They were usually pretty juicy targets. Of course this was before the recent trend of firing up cruise the second you see anything (the natural adaptation to the solo mindset I suppose?) which wont be nearly as effective in the future.
So I decided to check it out from the other side. By starting a mining group in the most pirated infested sectors of space. Omega 11 with the D: group. Myself and a few others started in CSVs and worked our way up. When we mined we mined with a transport standing by and several escort ships. We kept an eye on system populations and whatever popped up on scanner.
We had our avenues of escape planned. If something nasty showed up the transport bugged out while the escorts intercepted.
But we were all smart and experienced pilots. So I imagine that helped.
But it convinved me that escorts within the context of mining do work. We scored plenty of kills, got a lot of fun combat out of it and shed tons of absolutely epic close calls. One of the richer experiences I've had in disco. Hessians, Corsairs, LOLIMG, Junkers, etc etc. Was tons of fun. We never lost a single transport despite killer odds.
Mining by yourself doesn't work. It was never supposed to. It doesn't make much money, you're a fat target. If you get ganked by a pirate transport in a mining ship I really have no sympathy for you. Get some buddies in mining ships to keep an eye out. Put out silly bounties on pirates. Telling me that escorts don't work tells me that you're either doing it wrong or, more likely, simply don't have any and are telling me based on assumption that they don't work.
I do think people want it easy. But I don't blame the "lazy no RP pirate", I don't blame anyone. It's just a system of a weak, undefended target and someone who can take advantage of him.
Also the only reason I point out Omega 7 is because the bases are closer to the mining fields than my guidelines dictated.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Elsdragon - 04-04-2010
But you had an active, commited, and useful group. Not everyone has that.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Dusty Lens - 04-04-2010
' Wrote:But you had an active, commited, and useful group. Not everyone has that.
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Elsdragon - 04-04-2010
Quote:Qu'ils mangent de la briocheYum.
But what does " let them eat cake" have to do with mineing? Your point escapes me.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Dusty Lens - 04-04-2010
It means that I'm not terribly moved by their plight. The mining mod was designed to provide maximum awesome to persons who were willing to pull together active, commited, and useful groups while providing less than maximum awesome to persons who were not.
If you are determined to go at it solo to find some rumored amazing financial returns (have fun with that) then you are going to have less than the best time.
In the meantime though have some cake.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Elsdragon - 04-04-2010
Im not actually talking about mineing, and in fact, If they are going to mine solo, its their own dang fault.
Mineing is based in groups, and that is the way it will be for the forseeable future. That said, not everyone produceing money in everyway has a massive person advantage over their opponents
Discovery Economy Reformation - Dusty Lens - 04-04-2010
' Wrote:Mineing is based in groups, and that is the way it will be for the forseeable future. That said, not everyone produceing money in everyway has a massive person advantage over their opponents
Oh well? I don't get your point.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Elsdragon - 04-04-2010
It was based around the generall menthods of produceing standard sirius credits, which are by and large ecouraged to be group activities. Mineing is not exclusive, but is included in by virtue of produceing credits.
The poin Wrote:That said, not everyone produceing money in everyway has a massive person advantage over their opponents
Discovery Economy Reformation - Dusty Lens - 04-05-2010
Yeah, why would you even bother bringing it up? Quoting that doors are hinged panels that separate one room from the next isn't really a point that you need to mention within the context of describing a house to an architect. You can assume that certain virtues of construct are understood....
Actually... nevermind.
Discovery Economy Reformation - Elsdragon - 04-05-2010
Quote:Yeah, why would you even bother bringing it up? Quoting that doors are hinged panels that separate one room from the next isn't really a point that you need to mention within the context of describing a house to an architect. You can assume that certain virtues of construct are understood....
Actually... nevermind.
So cake is the answer to the economy?