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Split from Admin Notice. - Akumabito - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:and to akumabito, does anything please you?
All kinds of things please me, one thing for instance is fair moderation and admins willing to listen to people other than their buddies and actually be fair.
Do admins who stonewall and refuse to be fair please you?
Split from Admin Notice. - chovynz - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:Actually if a ship has conflicting orders, or if the captain receives orders he doesn't believe in he has not only the right but the responsibility to ignore them.You are correct that you have the ability to RP as Mr.X however, I believe that you would not be recognized as the legitimate leader. Just as you are doing to Copeland. He has that authority and position because he has earned it through trust and hard work.
This isn't about getting orders to go to point A and engage an enemy however, it's about being told "get rid of that ship or we pvp whore you", so the example you give doesn't apply to the situation.
Is the server supposed to be fun for everyone who plays within the rules?
If i RP that there is a Mr. X then there is a Mr. X. You forgot this is an RP server.
Mr.X (you) has not.
Copeland IS the leader of the LSF; any LSF ID and tagged player must obey Copeland.
Split from Admin Notice. - Akumabito - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:You are correct that you have the ability to RP as Mr.X however, I believe that you would not be recognized as the legitimate leader. Just as you are doing to Copeland. He has that authority and position because he has earned it through trust and hard work.
Mr.X (you) has not.
Copeland IS the leader of the LSF; any LSF ID and tagged player must obey Copeland.
He hasn't earned the ownership of people who have no desire to be owned by him, he has only earned ownership of those that join his faction, that voluntarily place themselves under him.
That's why joining a faction is a voluntary act. Join the LSF = under Copeland, not join the LSF but have an LSF tag/Id = not under Copeland, only responsible to act like a LSF with respect to what you say in system chat and who you attack.
Split from Admin Notice. - n00bl3t - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:He hasn't earned the ownership of people who have no desire to be owned by him, he has only earned ownership of those that join his faction, that voluntarily place themselves under him.
That, should be how it is.
Split from Admin Notice. - Athenian - 10-02-2008
My Mr. Z trumps your Mr. X and Y, Sirs!
I guess there is a spectrum that goes from
a. organising and establishing a player faction of characters with clear guidelines on ship and equipment use, area of operations, creating and maintaining message reporting, diplomatic arrangments, answering for your members' actions, shouting at members for doing stupid and embarassing things and the other kind of stuff that faction leaders do in between washing the kids and solving the financial credit crisis.
and
b. buying an i.d. for a ship for x reason which hardly matters because you contribute nothing of any depth in game or on the forum
The closer you are to A., in my book, means you are probably a little more committed to the game and server, and community in general. And you can claim all the control you want over whatever you want, the real question is how effectively you can or want to enforce it, while maintaining peoples' respect, assuming their respect is something you value. And so long as this doesn't break any server rules, then off you go. The game has more to offer than "We say this, you must do this" and the principle of "might makes right" mightn't be appealing in the real world, but considering the game has space monkeys means we can suspend disbelief and use our imaginations a little more.
Frankly, I think registration is a pretty mild measure, considering it's the leader of the military wing of a intergalactic drug cartel who demands it in one case. Certainly it all depends on who is demanding it. Sadly, this whole thing has become kind of personal. It's frustrating to read this day in, day out. If characters are trying to force you to kowtow, why not team up in game and take them on? Oh cause you get killed every time you launch. Maybe you ought to check your flight schedule.
I think it's reasonable to expect that someone with a track record in being restrained, rational and constructive and who actively contributes to the server by moving as close to A as possible in my above spectrum should be regarded as trustworthy enough to play the head of the faction he/she represents. Joining the player faction itself may be voluntary, but then so is joining the character faction. In my experience, both faction and non faction players can and do get on really well, and factions can be instrumental in helping players become attached to the game. Not always, but that is my experience.
So long as agreements don't obviously go contrary to the rules or general atmosphere of the game, they should be treated as RP components. But don't go expecting everyone to suspend disbelief as much as you. If you do want to step outside the box so to speak, then you will need to persuade rather than force others. Persuasion appeals to sense.
But perhaps this would have been better dealt with in feedback threads for the factions concerned? Perhaps the registration thing should be dealt with in the 101st feedback thread?
Sorry if a little off topic.
Split from Admin Notice. - n00bl3t - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:But perhaps this would have been better dealt with in feedback threads for the factions concerned? Perhaps the registration thing should be dealt with in the 101st feedback thread?
Shame it is locked.
Anyway, as for changing flight schedules, my timezone remains pretty static.
Split from Admin Notice. - Athenian - 10-02-2008
nooblet: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24542
Mind the red font.
//edit: here's how you escape: name change; launch when orbit is clear; engage cruise; run to border system; creat new outcast army and re take Alpha; become Outcast overlord; make indy weenies kowtow; die of amazement at irony of life.
Split from Admin Notice. - Jura_II - 10-02-2008
' Wrote:But perhaps this would have been better dealt with in feedback threads for the factions concerned? Perhaps the registration thing should be dealt with in the 101st feedback thread?
Just to point out that the 101st is not the only faction, and outcasts are not the only ones that do capital ship registration. Also the registration is being rewritten. And the red font is gone.
Split from Admin Notice. - Fellow Hoodlum - 10-02-2008
Olsav, take this as an official warning, personal attacks like that are not allowed. And Akumabito, as you
never concede a point, as your superior knowledge in all things seems not to allow it, coupled with your
innate ability to constantly hack people off, has lead us to ask you to reel it in once again.
Final time of asking.
Split from Admin Notice. - Lt.Cmdr.Olsav - 10-03-2008
sorry Hoodlum, late at night, wasn't being rational, i apologize to everyone for any derogatory remarks.