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RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Haste - 11-13-2013
Let bomber pilots who can aim their SNACs, even with the recent nerf that definitely made it harder (especially if the VHF knows how to exploit the rather slow-tracking barrel of the SNAC), be a threat to fighters, please.
Making them completely toothless would just make fighting them exceedingly boring. That ever-present risk of a SNAC to the face is fun, if you ask me, both if you're the one in the bomber and if you're the one killing it.
A fighter still kills bombers far more consistently than vice versa.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Scumbag - 11-13-2013
I say SNACs should at least have splash damage. That would make some interesting situations.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Murcielago - 11-13-2013
(11-13-2013, 02:36 PM)Saronsen Wrote: I voted yes because of a few things.
*Antimatter is what both the SNAC and the Nova use to do damage. There's no real difference besides one being more contained (It hardly uses any less energy, and can't track for balls, but there you go)
*Antimatter would cause a huge explosion anyway, making the SNAC extremely unrealistic in terms of what it actually does
*I like explosions
*I like torpedos
*There's probably a thousand different ways to make a torpedo-slot energy cannon that isn't as point-click-freedamage as a SNAC
All this
+ no demage to bomber when he shoot snac from very very (zerro) close range??
Soo YES
or make them do demage to shooter when fired at close range
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Kontrazec (Somni) - 11-13-2013
I voted yes- The SNAC is becoming a -way- overused weapon. Torpedoes have been added, the Hellfire Rocket Pod has been added, and who uses them? Barely anyone at all. SNAC is a point-click-damage mechanism, in my mind much less inventive and original than the tactic required to effectively fire a torpedo- Remember your speed depends greatly on the speed of the missile you're launching, whichever it is, while a SNAC is always the absolute same. It takes skill firing, yes, but a different kind of skill- This being knowing the difference between a selected weapon's speed and the SNAC's own, and moving your mouse a bit in front or behind the target reticle. The lag might be an issue, and if it proves an unfixable one, then- Perhaps the SNAC should have a splash, or, get this: Perhaps firing a SNAC should temporarily disrupt your shield like dropping cargo on certain ships does, after all- It's a huge wad of antimatter passing through it. Oughta have some sort of effect.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Hidamari - 11-13-2013
It seems quite a lot of people are basing their opinion on the torpedos currently available at the moment, being pretty much dominated by a single type, the Nova torpedo.
if the snac were removed there would need to be many weapon additions to the bombers arsenal, im not proposing to remove snac and leave them toothless, im intending to remove the Huge beaver tooth that gnaws through every target infront of it with amazing ease, in favour of a nice set of neatly aligned but razor sharp teeth.
Bomber guns would have to be improved to deal with fighters because right now they are shockingly bad.
Bomber mines would also be superb, though dont know how you would stop fighters using them. give them massive drain i guess.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Highland Laddie - 11-13-2013
Quote:Lessen the damage of the SNAC a bit if you have to make some kind of change.
Those who are good in bombers have spent the time and effort to get good in them. Why penalise them for being skillful?
I agree with this....and would add if you want bombers to use Hellfire Rockets, make them do a bit more damage to make it worth it.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Hidamari - 11-13-2013
(11-13-2013, 10:45 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:Quote:Lessen the damage of the SNAC a bit if you have to make some kind of change.
Those who are good in bombers have spent the time and effort to get good in them. Why penalise them for being skillful?
I agree with this....and would add if you want bombers to use Hellfire Rockets, make them do a bit more damage to make it worth it.
if snacs werent the do all or end all you would find more people using this weapon as standard anyway.
nothing short of removing the snac will make anyone use anything else, or be bothered to get at all creative with ordinance from a dev or player perspective.
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Highland Laddie - 11-14-2013
If you take away SNACs, bombers become useless at everything except staying 3-5k away and lobbing Novas. They are otherwise too slow to PvP effectively against snubs, and too under armored to make close range attacks on everything bigger without getting chewed up.
I can understand people getting frustrated when very good.bomber pilots are cleaning house with the insta-kill SNAC shots, but I don't see removing the gun altogether as the answer.
Maybe.compensate by increasing bomber gun damage and refire rate?
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - tothebonezone - 11-14-2013
(11-14-2013, 01:40 AM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Maybe.compensate by increasing bomber gun damage and refire rate?
Letting them use fighter guns again in a tradeoff against a less insta-gibby torpedo slot energy weapon would be so nice.
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I miss my 2 Colada 2 Diamondback Roc
RE: Remove snac in favour of wide torpedo selection. - Zoisite - 11-14-2013
I would really like to see a multi-warhead torpedo. Just like today's MIRV missiles.