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RE: Gytrash's rant. - Gytrash - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 05:25 AM)Durandal Wrote: It isn't that hard to pull a lore excuse out of your arse. It isn't impossible to change a population. (Manhattan reads 18 some billion, when I think in vanilla it barely topped 1 billion) It isn't impossible to come up with other explanations like "Zoner ships require smaller crews due to advanced AI technology", so on and so forth.
Actually Manhattan had 220 million.
In twenty years it's undergone 8100% population growth.
And it was the most populous planet by a long shot.
Long story short, Manhattan has on it today more people than should exist in Freelancer.
So much for scale.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - .Gypsy. - 02-28-2014
Quote:Wow...the pontificating going on.Good word usage.
(02-28-2014, 05:06 AM)Highland Laddie Wrote: So, your years and years of Zoner RP are now utterly wasted because the devs are just changing your toys a bit?With all due respect, "a bit" doesn't quite cover it and you know it. Putting it that way when its clearly more then a "bit" is both belittling and condescending.
(02-28-2014, 05:06 AM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Do you just RP for the stories themselves, or just for the ships?What difference does it make either way?
(02-28-2014, 05:06 AM)Highland Laddie Wrote: And now in a final act of desperation to save your toys, you threaten the devs with leaving the server in the hopes that they'll crap their pants, beg you to stay, and keep the status quo.The guy is clearly very passionate about this issue.
(02-28-2014, 05:06 AM)Highland Laddie Wrote: This is why people hate Zoners. This is precisely why.
No comment..
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Kazinsal - 02-28-2014
Manhattan's scale in lore is a problem and is being fixed. We don't need anything submitted to take care of that.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Durandal - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 05:32 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Manhattan's scale in lore is a problem and is being fixed. We don't need anything submitted to take care of that.
So it's a problem now, instead of something that was broken in vanilla and has since been fixed, as Igiss or whoever else wrote that card decided was the right thing to do at the time? Stop worshipping at the altar of the vanilla gods, as 'nilla had just as much holes as the current Zoner lore.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Kazinsal - 02-28-2014
Oh, the vanilla lore was never any better.
But 18 billion people is objectively ridiculous for a planet similar in size, age, and presumably resources to Earth.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Gytrash - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 05:32 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Manhattan's scale in lore is a problem and is being fixed. We don't need anything submitted to take care of that.
Okay then. Crete has 660 million people
Planet Los angeles has 470 million
Planet Malta, despite the Cardamine reducing the birth rate drastically, has 470 million.
Need I go on?
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Kazinsal - 02-28-2014
Nope, those all work just fine.
Zoners still aren't getting their battleships though.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Gytrash - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 05:36 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Nope, those all work just fine.
Zoners still aren't getting their battleships though.
Planet Manhattan in 801AS had 220 million people
Outcast birthrate is at most 1/3 of the rest of Sirius.
Planet Malta (Outcasts) has 213% the population that Manhattan had twenty years ago.
¿logic
Again.
Edit:
Also Crete was having trouble feeding it's population (The population of Crete must be lower than Manhattan otherwise nothing makes sense.)
It has 300% of the people that Manhattan had.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Kazinsal - 02-28-2014
Yo, where did I say "we're restoring numbers to vanilla levels"?
Still doesn't change the issue at hand which is a non-issue.
RE: Gytrash's rant. - Dead Reckoning - 02-28-2014
Why are you taking such a hardline stance on this? Why is the discussion not even open to weakening the ship, instead it's just your colony ships are becoming transports, suck it up.