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RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Highland Laddie - 02-28-2014
Quote:I meant strength of independence, as in: Ensuring the security of their own stations/planets and being able to defend themselves on voyages, so they don't get bullied into submission.
This is where diplomacy plays its part. There's also such a thing as economic/supply strength. While they may or may not have the Billions in centrally controlled revenue like a House corporation might have, the Zoners can much more easily acquire goods on the fringes that pirates like Corsairs cannot come by easily, like food. You don't go biting the hand that feeds you, or you starve. That's part of the business/detente relationship you can make with such power.
Also...you don't necessarily NEED a fleet of battleships in order to defend yourselves on a voyage. You could more easily have a FLEET of gunboats, or a fleet of Cruisers. A case could be made to have a Carrier-like ship that is able to deploy snubs for defense...but that's a different role of ship.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 10:04 AM)Coin Wrote: stop the hate
I did laugh a lot.
All hail Garrett Jax.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Keioff Xanjer - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 03:27 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: .....
Also...you don't necessarily NEED a fleet of battleships in order to defend yourselves on a voyage. You could more easily have a FLEET of gunboats, or a fleet of Cruisers. A case could be made to have a Carrier-like ship that is able to deploy snubs for defense...but that's a different role of ship.
I'm not advocating that Zoners need a fleet of battleships at all. I must make that clear.
I was picturing a scenario with a single Nephilim being like a floating station, Some transporters to carry supplies and a couple of light fighters as scouts.
That would be my idea of an exploration mission. Maybe that's wrong.
I must admit that cruisers and gunboats sounds a bit warlike in my ears though.
That being said, I only have very limited experience, so I don't know which tools are best in what situation. That's why I have so much speculation.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Highland Laddie - 02-28-2014
Quote:I'm not advocating that Zoners need a fleet of battleships at all. I must make that clear.
I was picturing a scenario with a single Nephilim being like a floating station, Some transporters to carry supplies and a couple of light fighters as scouts.
That would be my idea of an exploration mission. Maybe that's wrong.
I don't think so. This would be my idea as well. What's in question currently is what the current size/capabilities of said Nephilim should be able to do in accordance to game balance and also make sense in lore. Some seem to think it should be a Battleship or rough equivalent and nothing else will do, while others argue that such a ship wouldn't really be plausible or practical for Zoners on the scale they are played at, especially considering their less aggressive nature compared to House militaries and other quasi-lawful groups.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - RmJ - 02-28-2014
Spreading the bumhurt, lezonot.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - lIceColon - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 10:04 AM)Coin Wrote: stop the hateOkay that was funny XD
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Cashew - 02-28-2014
Keep teh peace
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Savas - 02-28-2014
#deletezoners
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - Keioff Xanjer - 02-28-2014
(02-28-2014, 05:32 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: I don't think so. This would be my idea as well. What's in question currently is what the current size/capabilities of said Nephilim should be able to do in accordance to game balance and also make sense in lore. Some seem to think it should be a Battleship or rough equivalent and nothing else will do, while others argue that such a ship wouldn't really be plausible or practical for Zoners on the scale they are played at, especially considering their less aggressive nature compared to House militaries and other quasi-lawful groups.
I understand this. Don't care about the nerf of it's capabilities, I just hope they don't remove it's base-like qualities and replace it by some simple cargo-hauler.
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Over time, the Zoners have evolved into an influential and rich factions that invests a lot into deep space exploration...But anyway, We can allways apply for a SRP permit and even if we shouldn't get it, we'll adapt.
(02-28-2014, 08:37 PM)Savas Wrote: #deletezoners
This is why intelligent dialogue is dying. It isn't even funny.
RE: Stop the Hate !!!!! - t0l - 02-28-2014
Hehe.
No.