+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Discovery Development (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Forum: Discovery Developers Forum (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=183)
+---- Forum: Discovery Unofficial Development (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=389)
+----- Forum: Discovery Mod FLHook Projects (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=266)
+----- Thread: How to solve bumping of big ships (/showthread.php?tid=150313)
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Gagadug. - 05-18-2017
No, I want to say that you can not see where exactly the cap sits in relation to the lane.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - HanCloudstone - 05-18-2017
Really? I wonder who won't quit a lane if they see a huge sausage of a ship ahead.
Maybe an afker. Adapt to the changing tactics, it's not that hard.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Gagadug. - 05-18-2017
It would be beneath the lane as I try to make you understand in the last posts. I am sure you have fallen out of a lane sideways when it was cut right ? Its not like you can magically forsee someone shooting the lane in the right moment.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - HanCloudstone - 05-18-2017
If this is just a tactic then it's counterable by leaving the lane early. That's too easy.
Next.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Arbs - 05-18-2017
(05-18-2017, 02:16 PM)HanCloudstone Wrote: Really? I wonder who won't quit a lane if they see a huge sausage of a ship ahead.
Maybe an afker. Adapt to the changing tactics, it's not that hard.
How fun. Let me just park up my cloaked carrier right before the last or just any ring. It would be by "accident" too of course. No RP needed either. And since that doesn't really change the freelancer mechanics in itself, it means you'll probably ram me about 5 times before you realize it too.
But let's not go into "what if" situations. It's simply exploitable and harmful, even when excluding lanes as not all rammings are intentional either.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Kaze - 05-18-2017
Abusable by any cap with a cloak. And balance must be abuse-proof.
Because people do abuse if they can.
<3
Because people do abuse if they can.
<3
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - HanCloudstone - 05-18-2017
Cloaks have a sound warning.
Besides, there is a reason why Oracles can't trade with any sort of cloak equipped. To not make them absolute powertraders. Same can be done with cloaked caps in lanes in order to prevent them from becoming a new meta: we can just enforce a rule that says: don't stand cloaked inside a lane or in front of a lane where ships will ram into you.
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Unlucky_Soul - 05-18-2017
(05-18-2017, 02:55 PM)HanCloudstone Wrote: Cloaks have a sound warning.
Besides, there is a reason why Oracles can't trade with any sort of cloak equipped. To not make them absolute powertraders. Same can be done with cloaked caps in lanes in order to prevent them from becoming a new meta: we can just enforce a rule that says: don't stand cloaked inside a lane or in front of a lane where ships will ram into you.
you probably wont hear the cloak sound while traveling in the trade lane
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - sasapinjic - 05-19-2017
and once more :
(05-16-2017, 09:39 AM)sasapinjic Wrote:(05-16-2017, 08:39 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: Again , this will NOT be "hit a snub with a Capitol and insta-kill it" , it will be "don't bump in to Capitol with a snub or you will loose lots of hull and be forced to use bits" !
Even if you bump in to Capitol when exiting trade line , you will stay alive if you have any armor stonger than dirty cheep x1.9 .
(05-18-2017, 01:58 PM)Gagadug. Wrote: Just for the fun of it Ill give an example of how easy it could be abused.
Say you got a snub group chasing a target in a bigger fight. You tell one of the big caps on your side to sit at the end of another tradelane and wait for you to fly through.
IF it is positioned right and shoots the lane after you exit all the following snubs will be thrown out at the exact same place at the lane, ramming into the ship and loosing tons of regens.
You have a bigger chance to win a lottery than to kill a snub by placing it self on its trajectory and hoping snub pilot is blind of AFK ( in which case you can kill it with mortar anyway ) .
(05-18-2017, 02:08 PM)Gagadug. Wrote: I dont talk a ship sitting in the rings waiting for you, but next to the lane. You wont realize it is sitting in that exact spot before you explode.
Apart from that this wouldnt solve the problem in the slightest. Ships still would get bumped, just that they have the ability to instakill everything below a VHF by simply touching it.
No , even LF with x2.1 armor will survive , dint you read what i have wrote ? There will be no insta-killing !
Even if by some miracle snub bump in to not-moving Capitol , it will survive ,and it will take ANOTHER bump to kill already damaged snub if pilot is incompetent enough to NOT use bits or to not be able to move away with its 200 km/s speed from that 90/km/s fast carrier that chase him !
RE: How to solve bumping of big ships - Sombs - 05-19-2017
I think that makes things just unnecessarily complicated while being a rather big job for the devs.