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RE: Help us choose an ID! - Laura C. - 02-20-2018
(02-20-2018, 09:57 AM)The Hansa Wrote: Republican shipping works well, the only issue with it, is it would force us to re-asses our current attitude with the Unioner official group (which is that we pay them money not to blow us sky-high). Might create a conflict of interest.
Maybe Kruger? We wouldn't be mining, so we wouldn't be in contest with the current official group.
That might be an option too (depending partially also on how you plan to present your faction, what they will be trading for example), however there still may be unlawfuls which will go after you and might not be willing to let you go just for money. For example Hessians, which are dead now, but that may change in future. Like SnakThree said, you can´t have both total freedom from house enemies (well, paid freedom...) and diplomacy and fly the biggest ships at the same time.
(02-20-2018, 10:00 AM)The Hansa Wrote:If you would be using unloader, then you can use Zoner ID and you will be fine, no need for using another ID as it would cause problems (one faction can use only one ID). Zoners can´t dock in house space only with ships bigger than 3600 cargo units, so if you will be using second smaller ship which can by rules, I don´t see issue with it. I even saw some zoners doing this occasionally and never saw any sanction for it. But inquiry to admins just to be sure won´t hurt in case you decide for this solution.(02-20-2018, 09:59 AM)JorgeRyan Wrote: I guess you could always just... lose the 5k'ers and go with Freelancer/Zoner. Or, if you know you'll always be flying together, zoner whales + serenity's/borderworld transports to unload when in house space
We've thought about that. Hmm.
Could that be considered game mechanic abuse? Using an unloader?
(02-20-2018, 11:10 AM)The Hansa Wrote: The obvious choice would be Republican shipping, but they don't exactly speak small or free of governmental interference.You can start as a small company using Republican Shipping license, there were factions which started like that. Once you establish yourself, you can roleplay it accordingly as getting bigger and bigger (alternatively to the point where you take control over whole faction when go official, we had these scenarios before, for example current Ageira faction).
There will be always at least some governmental interference for anyone who is trading in house space. You always have to follow the laws and such.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - Durandal - 02-20-2018
Yeah you need to start without 5kers if you want to fully pursue that avenue of RP. Otherwise you're going to be stuck within the constraints of pre-existing RP which conflicts with your own.
It ultimately comes down to whether you value your roleplay or gameplay experience more.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - R.I.P. - 02-20-2018
would agree, Freelancer does give you the most freedom. 5kers are not really all that great imo, yes large cargo but usually handle like a brick and cannot defend themselves. Where a serenity may not carry as much cargo but a fleet of them adds up. Plus serenity can defend it's self a heck of a lot better than pretty much any 5k transports. Other than that i would think Republican Shipping would be about the best choice if you really need 5kers. Could always start with freelancer IDs, work your faction up to official and then maybe if you get that far and can manage to get official with your own IDs, then maybe work the RP into becoming your own company and have 5kers on your own roleplayed IDs that would maybe end up with more of a rep you desire in the long run. And as far as zoner whales, you should be ok unloading them with smaller ships. Very close to what used to be done with barges that could not land on planets.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - sasapinjic - 02-20-2018
Freelancer ID (freelancerRH restart) if you choose to settle with up to 3600 cargo,
Rheinland corporations if you want over 3600 cargo,
GMG if you want over 3600 cargo and dont want Rheinland gowerment connections.
All those ID can trade in Galia to.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - Nodoka Hanamura - 02-20-2018
I'd say use Zoner ID, but It seems kinda off, given Zoners don't really operate in House Space. It would suffice until you get your own ID down the line if you choose to do so. Regarding 5Kers, I use a Whale to supply my station both in and out of house space. When I'm in house I usually bring a friend in a serenity to load and unload supplies onto the Whale. As far as I'm aware it's not against the rules (and honestly shouldn't be, as it promotes teamwork and server activity)
(02-20-2018, 03:18 PM)sasapinjic Wrote: GMG if you want over 3600 cargo and dont want Rheinland gowerment connections.Uh.. given the situation in Rheinland right now, GMG wouldn't be a good idea for a ID.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - sasapinjic - 02-20-2018
We dont know what will happen betwen Rheinland, GMG and Kusari, how situation will develop and who will become hostile with who. Hell, For all we know, next patch can bring war been Kusari with Rheinland, Galia or Liberty. From that point of wiew, all IDs tied with Rheinland ,Galia and Kusari maybe will be changed. All we can do is recomended current situation . I Dint play from that gate event at all, so i dont know if GMG is now hostile with Rheinland.
RE: Help us choose an ID! - Sand_Spider - 02-20-2018
GMG vessels are currently outlawed in Rheinland, according to their House Laws. A formal declaration of war was made by Rheinland against the GMG (Though, neither side has so far been willing to play it out).
Avoid the GMG ID for now. Potentially, if you go for Freelancer IDs, the Hansa can start out in Serenities and prove themselves a lawful corporation. Then after a few months, you could send a transmission to Rheinland's government (and possibly other Houses) and petition for your company to legally fly the Pitbull (Which is allowed on the Freelancer ID but usually outlawed by Houses).
RE: Help us choose an ID! - Laura C. - 02-20-2018
Rheinland declared war on GMG, that´s the current situation. Thus GMG ID would not be good choice as they are to be shot on sight.
(02-20-2018, 03:35 PM)Sand_Spider Wrote: Potentially, if you go for Freelancer IDs, the Hansa can start out in Serenities and prove themselves a lawful corporation. Then after a few months, you could send a transmission to Rheinland's government (and possibly other Houses) and petition for your company to legally fly the Pitbull (Which is allowed on the Freelancer ID but usually outlawed by Houses).Pitbull is legal in Rheinland (despite it´s against the philosophy of purpose of that ship, but let´s not go off topic).
RE: Help us choose an ID! - The Hansa - 02-20-2018
All great advice, thank you.
It's looking like Zoner or Kruger ID. Still stuck on which one.
The problem with 5ks is that we're presently feeding a base we want to use as an RP asset, not just a moneysink. Which becomes significantly harder without 5k cargo and in-house docking access. There arn't a lot of us, and we can't assume lots of people will join. 3.5k base feeding is a headache, which becomes worse when you add any kind of reasonable armour. Ouch. Even with Zoner ID, having a loader requires there to always be a loader online, since most vital base construction parts are sold in house core space. Hrm.
(02-20-2018, 03:19 PM)Nodoka Hanamura Wrote: I'd say use Zoner ID, but It seems kinda off, given Zoners don't really operate in House Space. It would suffice until you get your own ID down the line if you choose to do so. Regarding 5Kers, I use a Whale to supply my station both in and out of house space. When I'm in house I usually bring a friend in a serenity to load and unload supplies onto the Whale. As far as I'm aware it's not against the rules (and honestly shouldn't be, as it promotes teamwork and server activity)
I'll run this past chat. Thank you!
RE: Help us choose an ID! - Bulldog. - 02-20-2018
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