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RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Shimamori - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:08 PM)Saronsen Wrote:(12-05-2020, 01:57 PM)Shimamori Wrote: Why is the society going down with this snowflakish sensitivity to everything nowadays?
Is defending the proliferation of the abuse of children, be it fictional or otherwise, really the hill you want to die on?
So you are implying that spreading information converts into action? Here in Japan child abuse is a real problem despite no info in the media about it. And under abuse I mean simple old violence, not some sexual deviations, so referencing hentai and corny anime stuff is not relevant.
The downhill, tho, is more about becoming sensitive about everything. Some depictions of abuse towards a prisoner of war which actually do happen and get covered on the news, right. Sensitive. At the same time we just have had a genocide of billions on Leeds on the basis of hate (there was no strategic value). Right, not sensitive. Establish more consistent standards then, would you?
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Saronsen - 12-05-2020
You can allude to it, you can be subtle about it, but if you want to directly refer to it or straight up lay it out in the bare in a conversation or straight, blunt, raw writing, you're going to get judged for it, and shouted at.
If you can't be a better writer and keep it as a shadow looming over the story instead of a glaring problem that's the forefront, maybe you shouldn't use such viciously offensive subject matter in your stories.
Take your false equivalences elsewhere, please.
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - romeodarkbeat - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:08 PM)Saronsen Wrote:(12-05-2020, 01:57 PM)Shimamori Wrote: Why is the society going down with this snowflakish sensitivity to everything nowadays?
Is defending the proliferation of the abuse of children, be it fictional or otherwise, really the hill you want to die on?
Who's defending ploriferation, my dude? If anything, Sonja as a char is a SURVIVOR, meaning, her very existence and continued story works AGAINST abuse.
I mean, imagine being throught some of that shit and turning to videogames to cope. You then meet chars like Sonja, and the story makes you feel like someone understands you. You meet other of his chars like Lady Camille who left wealthy family to fight for what is right in Liberty. Or Hilda who cooks amazing stuff both ingame and inrp. And I dont even know all his chars from what this thread implies.
And the she gets the axe cause one line 4 people saw once is offensive, in a decision by a staff that keeps *coughs hard* Dancers as a COMMODITY.
This is "preventing" abuse by executing anyone who denounces it. It's by DEFINITION silencing the victim, killing them actually
So is defending an Apartheid made of pixels really the hill you and GMs want to sit on while we loose an excelent member of the community?
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Saronsen - 12-05-2020
You're still using false equivalency to compare adult content to child abuse.
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Czechmate - 12-05-2020
We have Leeds and allow open slavery and prostitution on forums :and in-game
I mean obviously like I said - it must have been a lazy staff member or something. I'd be shocked if everything is deleted instead of pointing out what to change and retconn
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - romeodarkbeat - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:24 PM)Saronsen Wrote: You can allude to it, you can be subtle about it, but if you want to directly refer to it or straight up lay it out in the bare in a conversation or straight, blunt, raw writing, you're going to get judged for it, and shouted at.
If you can't be a better writer and keep it as a shadow looming over the story instead of a glaring problem that's the forefront, maybe you shouldn't use such viciously offensive subject matter in your stories.
Take your false equivalences elsewhere, please.
I mean I've seen forum signatures depicting the genocide in Leeds, being worn as a badge of honor. So no false equivalence here, it's a very glaring display of double standart.
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Shimamori - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:24 PM)Saronsen Wrote: You can allude to it, you can be subtle about it, but if you want to directly refer to it or straight up lay it out in the bare in a conversation or straight, blunt, raw writing, you're going to get judged for it, and shouted at.
If you can't be a better writer and keep it as a shadow looming over the story instead of a glaring problem that's the forefront, maybe you shouldn't use such viciously offensive subject matter in your stories.
Take your false equivalences elsewhere, please.
So you are dismissing equivaleces on a subjective basis while speaking about "good writing" as something objective. Right. Writing can be objectively good if devoid of spelling, grammar, and semantic errors, and tautology. Everything else is purely subjective. Some writers keep the mystery, others hit hard directly. As long as the writing methods fit the intent of the writer and it is interesting to read - the writing can find readers and interest.
Take your subjective evaluations elsewhere, please.
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Saronsen - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:45 PM)Shimamori Wrote: Some writers keep the mystery, others hit hard directly.
And hitting child abuse hard and directly is a one-way trip to getting reamed by the staff if someone takes offense.
This is not a democracy, this is not a free country, this is not a public forum. This is a private community.
Caitlyn is lucky they were not simply handed a ban, as others were. The outrage over a thread they could very easily have just PM'd a moderator/GM about to get the contents sent to them is ridiculous. Threads are only ever invis'd, and staff can always see them, and thus, send you the contents over PM, discord, email, whatever pleases you.
You are not doing them or yourself any favors for a person who received a very, very light slap on the wrist, and acting like they were just executed by H*tler himself.
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - Traxit - 12-05-2020
just edit your story bro
getting sanctioned for this is silly tho
RE: Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings - romeodarkbeat - 12-05-2020
(12-05-2020, 02:38 PM)Saronsen Wrote: You're still using false equivalency to compare adult content to child abuse.
Yeah because no child was muredered in the 15B+ casualties of the genocide people wear in signature.
My main point, still unchallenged, is that Sonja's story is the example of what RP can be when you push narrative like that in a meaningful way. There's no point in there where a sane person would empathize with the perpetrators or feel aroused by the abusive situation. It's the kind of story that promotes a sense of healing to anyone who have been through shit.
If anything, False equivalence is saying a survivor story about the horror of abuse is promoting abuse itself.