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RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Nekrotalis - 06-04-2024

The answer to the L'Ane/Pirate Train question is given here: X

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Lusitano - 06-04-2024

(06-04-2024, 12:41 PM)Nekrotalis Wrote: The answer to the L'Ane/Pirate Train question is given here: X

thank you Smileb
but also would be good that the answer was next to the question, which now raises another question, what will happen to the affected pilots, especially those who even legalized their use in house space, if any compensation will happen or if they simply don't care

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Serpentis - 06-04-2024

(06-04-2024, 12:52 PM)Lusitano Wrote:
(06-04-2024, 12:41 PM)Nekrotalis Wrote: The answer to the L'Ane/Pirate Train question is given here: X

thank you Smileb
but also would be good that the answer was next to the question, which now raises another question, what will happen to the affected pilots, especially those who even legalized their use in house space, if any compensation will happen or if they simply don't care

I would guess they could make a SRP for it? Shouldn't be too hard, right?

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Lusitano - 06-04-2024

and how long it will take? and what about those who have it but don't care much about those rp stuff?

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Wildkins - 06-04-2024

(06-02-2024, 09:02 PM)Prysin Wrote: Or can i attack factions listed as Enemies in my IFF page anywhere? What's the actual limitation here.

- Can attack ships considered hostile by Rheinland

Means, essentially, anything that The Government Of Rheinland dictates as an enemy, which is usually found in the laws. You don't need an enforce laws line for this, the laws would just be informing what that line covers. When in doubt just fall back on common sense - Hessians would quite obviously be considered hostile to Rheinland.

This is all secondary to the fact that Can attack Red Hessians fell off of the ID during one of my drafts and never made it back on, which is just a mistake on my part.

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Wildkins - 06-04-2024

(06-02-2024, 09:21 PM)Spectre Wrote:
(06-02-2024, 04:01 PM)Lusitano Wrote: why freelancers can not use the l'ane and the pirate train?
Considering the amount of people who have legalized Pitbulls that suddenly can't use them, that's a lot of RP that's just thrown out the window. Even the unregistered ones are now useless without an ID swap, and I say this as someone who owns one.

A response from staff would be nice, since there's probably a bunch of people flying around in breach of their ID allowances without any idea.

"Legalized Pitbull" is kinda the entire problem here. The only reason the allowance was ever given to Freelancers was with the implicit understanding it would be balanced by being illegal in House Space. Otherwise, there's no reason not to just give Freelancers 4.3ks and be done with it. (Which isn't happening.)

(06-04-2024, 01:31 PM)Lusitano Wrote: and what about those who have it but don't care much about those rp stuff?

I recommend finding a different ship or a different ID.

Ed: it should also be said that people are not going to be thrown in hyperjail for daring to fly around a PTrain after the patch. Obviously it's a sudden change and we're not going to expect everyone to immediately know and follow it.

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Lemon - 06-04-2024

(06-04-2024, 01:43 PM)Wildkins Wrote:
(06-02-2024, 09:21 PM)Spectre Wrote:
(06-02-2024, 04:01 PM)Lusitano Wrote: why freelancers can not use the l'ane and the pirate train?
Considering the amount of people who have legalized Pitbulls that suddenly can't use them, that's a lot of RP that's just thrown out the window. Even the unregistered ones are now useless without an ID swap, and I say this as someone who owns one.

A response from staff would be nice, since there's probably a bunch of people flying around in breach of their ID allowances without any idea.

"Legalized Pitbull" is kinda the entire problem here. The only reason the allowance was ever given to Freelancers was with the implicit understanding it would be balanced by being illegal in House Space. Otherwise, there's no reason not to just give Freelancers 4.3ks and be done with it. (Which isn't happening.)

(06-04-2024, 01:31 PM)Lusitano Wrote: and what about those who have it but don't care much about those rp stuff?

I recommend finding a different ship or a different ID.
This is a very bad take from a lawful Player's perspective - you are taking away activity in terms of catching the people with them. This is a total win win situation for everyone for Freelancers to have lane and pitbull. Staff have government oversight, this is literally your decision to let the licenses stay.

You remove these ships from the ID because you yourself let them be legal as the main issue? Hello?

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - rwx - 06-04-2024

I'd like to know, if the border rule (which prevents in-house consequences due rp encounters in the border system) is still applicable if someone can enforce laws within a border system.

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - Prysin - 06-04-2024

(06-04-2024, 01:40 PM)Wildkins Wrote:
(06-02-2024, 09:02 PM)Prysin Wrote: Or can i attack factions listed as Enemies in my IFF page anywhere? What's the actual limitation here.

- Can attack ships considered hostile by Rheinland

Means, essentially, anything that The Government Of Rheinland dictates as an enemy, which is usually found in the laws. You don't need an enforce laws line for this, the laws would just be informing what that line covers. When in doubt just fall back on common sense - Hessians would quite obviously be considered hostile to Rheinland.

This is all secondary to the fact that Can attack Red Hessians fell off of the ID during one of my drafts and never made it back on, which is just a mistake on my part.

i mean, the line that fell off was "Can attack combat ships belonging to Red Hessians and IMG"....

Kinda sad about the IMG part, i cannot hunt them in Taus anymore (which i did once in 3 years but whatever)

RE: ID Rework - 5.1 Aftershock: Dev Diary #8, "In Search of The Wild West" - rwx - 06-04-2024

(06-04-2024, 02:26 PM)Prysin Wrote: Kinda sad about the IMG part, i cannot hunt them in Taus anymore (which i did once in 3 years but whatever)

- Can engage in piracy against competitors outside of House Space.