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pirate demands? - Exsiled_one - 10-09-2009
agreed with ayem here. I'm rarely at the same place, traders aren't that dumb.
or for example, I pirate a guy full of organs in 41, he heads to Gc with 1500 organs less and I proceed towards omega 3, stop one more guy there, head to trafaglar and sell it all, then i come back, pirate a guy heading from o5 to o3 with military vehicles and sell them at fes, i undock and there's that trader i pirated first, with deuterium now.
well hello handsome
pirate demands? - Gentle - 10-09-2009
A good piracy figure should be based on whos shiping. Who the recipient will be. ie whos buying. Essentially if your supplying the enemy of the pirates asking you for money expect the sum to be higher than if your supplying a neutral. If you happen to be of negative rep yourself and your supplying an enemy well expect a hard taxation. Very hard in fact. Because quite frankly we dont want enemies supplying other enemies with stuff they need.
Its all relative you see.
I love people who think 1 mil is just enough. Sometimes it is sometimes it isnt. At the end of the day if you value the RP associated with the WAY you are being prated and the reasons are good the value should be of less consequence than a 2 mil or dai request which should actually be reported back to faction leaders for the offende to be dealty a substantial smack.
Naturaly if you fail to play because of your moral standing on the value of your own characters life. You deserve to have your bits blown off and your entire cargo shipped off to the nearest decent price loadoff base for being such a stubborn retard.
Relativity........
I haz guns to make you go bang and your not my friend and supplying my enemy = 5 mil or your entire cargo perhaps. Likelyhood is refusal and dead trader which is acceptable RP because we dont like you anyway.
Your a neutral trader suplling your own faction or another neutral....hey lets take it easy 1 3rd cargo or a mil or two. is acceptable because we want to see you pirated again soon.
Thats all folks.
G.
pirate demands? - Ackarion - 10-09-2009
' Wrote:A good piracy figure should be based on whos shiping. Who the recipient will be. ie whos buying. Essentially if your supplying the enemy of the pirates asking you for money expect the sum to be higher than if your supplying a neutral. If you happen to be of negative rep yourself and your supplying an enemy well expect a hard taxation. Very hard in fact. Because quite frankly we dont want enemies supplying other enemies with stuff they need.
Its all relative you see.
I love people who think 1 mil is just enough. Sometimes it is sometimes it isnt. At the end of the day if you value the RP associated with the WAY you are being prated and the reasons are good the value should be of less consequence than a 2 mil or dai request which should actually be reported back to faction leaders for the offende to be dealty a substantial smack.
Naturaly if you fail to play because of your moral standing on the value of your own characters life. You deserve to have your bits blown off and your entire cargo shipped off to the nearest decent price loadoff base for being such a stubborn retard.
Relativity........
I haz guns to make you go bang and your not my friend and supplying my enemy = 5 mil or your entire cargo perhaps. Likelyhood is refusal and dead trader which is acceptable RP because we dont like you anyway.
Your a neutral trader suplling your own faction or another neutral....hey lets take it easy 1 3rd cargo or a mil or two. is acceptable because we want to see you pirated again soon.
Thats all folks.
G.
Just goes to show simple mindlessness
what you seem is reasonable rp or not does not justify it as being ok.
pirate demands? - Aoyagi - 10-09-2009
' Wrote:Your a neutral trader suplling your own faction or another neutral....hey lets take it easy 1 3rd cargo or a mil or two. is acceptable because we want to see you pirated again soon.
Hmm...camping between Kyushu and Tau 31 / Lewis / Orkney perhaps? I wonder who'd end up in flames first.
Plus, OK in RP doesn't mean OK in common sense.
pirate demands? - darthbeck - 10-09-2009
Is it good RP to ransom a ship for aobut what it is worth?
I think we'd see alot less adv trains.... And far more gulls.
pirate demands? - Irra - 10-09-2009
Pirates are funny sometimes but mostly they don't ask much. I usually always try to RP my way out of it but if i cant i pay. I never try to run ( unless pirate don't have CD:D). Anyway some traders are much much funnier then pirates, i asked with my rogue 100k from two 5k cargo trains. 100k from each. They both refused and told everyone in system where i was. In the end no one was happy they lost cargo and i got destroyed in the end. I was never pirated more then 4mil ... maybe in cargo value in the end but anyway it was always something reasonable.
pirate demands? - Elsdragon - 10-09-2009
If they cruise, Or drift, I tend to blow their shields off. Razor em once or twice too.
I Dont chrage all that much , to someone who actually RP's, But People like that Collusos that Lol's whenever someone asks him to stop, they die. Because they never pay. Oh yes, Some guy Reports an yone who hits him before demanding anything, despite that being perfectly allowed
pirate demands? - Coin - 10-09-2009
i guess that the only way to remove the 4-5milrdai offa the server is to change the piracy id cards:
'non faction-afiliated pirates may only demand cargo. Membership of an official faction allows demands of cargo and/or credits'
pirate demands? - BaconSoda - 10-09-2009
In Roleplay, a pirate knows two things:
A. A trader has money
B. A trader wants to live
So, he can demand as much money as a trader is crazy. It is the pirate's job to make the trader feel like his life is in danger. It is your decision, as a trader, to determine whether or not a pirate can kill you and how much that bothers you. If your trader doesn't mind exploding, then, by all means, ask people to kill you or try and escape hopeless situations. As a normal person, however, I don't like to explode on a normal basis. As a trader isn't a combat pilot, and more or less a normal person, I somehow doubt my characters, combat or not, enjoy exploding often.
Pirates want money. Traders want money. People (in general) want to live. Pirates want to corner traders. Traders want to get away from pirates. If at all possible, most pirates don't want to kill everyone. Some pirates might want to kill some people, but, never everyone. Pirates generally want funding or materials when they meet someone.
Anyway, point is, a pirate can tax anything he wants (as long as it's not completely unreasonable). I trade Terraforming Gases, Mining Machinery, Hydrocarbons, and generally POS materials, and I easily have 30 million on my Gateway at all times. I don't even look on the online player list and I encounter maybe 2 pirates in four weeks. Five million is not unreasonable for big ships.
Another point is that in RP a trader probably doesn't want to die. Unless he is confident that he can escape a pirate, he should probably pay. Running from three bombers or three fighters or generally three anythings isn't really a good idea. It will probably result in death, or if a forfeit is given, a larger fine. In-RP, a pirate is usually in control. This is where escorts come into play. Needless of what people say, killing a transport while under fire from someone else is much harder than killing one without anyone firing on you. Just enough interference to let a transport get away.
pirate demands? - Tovig - 10-09-2009
In my Gaian, i always ask donation after a little speech about the Gaians fight and the protection of environnement from pollution. Amounth of the donation is free, so sometimes I have 500k, sometimes I got few millions.. But if a trader refuse to make a donation (come on, even 100k ?) I blow him up. I'm an activist after all.
For my OC, it's more profit pirating. My method is simple and should be used by everyone :
You look at the cargo and divide the price by 2.
An example, an adv train with 5000 cargo will pay 2.5 millions.
A BWT with 3600 cargo will pay 1.8 millions.
A Camara with 630 will pay 315 000 credits.
I think it's pretty fair.