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Corsair and Outcast changes - mjolnir - 12-07-2009
' Wrote:Yeah corsairs asked coloda to be re-made into fighter weapon, but.. its not working. And I doubt we will be able to make everyone happy. So just.. get rid of it or remake it into torp slot gun. (perhaps something similiar to inferno, just with mini razors speed (corsairs has slower projectiles) )
After some 4 hours you already know it's not working?
Corsair and Outcast changes - Thexare - 12-07-2009
' Wrote:I think not allowing the Outcasts to use normal Civ line wouldn't hurt anyone, except those PvPwhores though.So nice of you to lump me in with the PVP whores.
More pointless rules with very limited basis in RP aren't the answer. And honestly, I don't see nearly as many Eagles as I do Sabres and Destroyers. Must be a timezone thing.
Corsair and Outcast changes - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-07-2009
' Wrote:After some 4 hours you already know it's not working?
Yes, I dont need to watch the yellow line burn more than 4 hours to see that it sucks the powercore to fast.
Corsair and Outcast changes - sovereign - 12-07-2009
Hold on hold on hold on.
The Inferno now does more shield damage.
Doesn't it already strip fighter shields in one shot?
So doesn't that mean that this change has absolutely no bearing on Sabre vs Titan balance? Or Sabre vs Praetorian?
As for the Colada, by most everyone's admission it was unusable for fighters before the update. Now, it is at least theoretically usable (only time will tell). Since I doubt anyone's going to call it broken, what could possibly go wrong? At worst it still needs tweaking and is still unusable. Just like before.
See where I'm going with this?
The Praetorian and Roc were nerfed a bit. The Roc was starting to be whored (note: I am by no means saying that everyone who flies a Roc is a PvPwhore), and anyone who's fought the Praetorian can testify how fine a ship it is. It doesn't sound like a major change, just a tweak. At worst, the Corsairs have a teensy weensy disadvantage until the next tweak comes. At best, it's fairer than it was before.
In conclusion, from this update:
Outcast-Corsair fighter balance is completely unaffected, or at most slightly shifted toward the Corsairs
Outcast-Corsair bomber balance is somewhat tipped toward the Outcasts at most, and only slightly tweaked at least- but I don't think anyone is contesting the superior status of the Praetorian in this field even with these changes
Outcast fighters are slightly harder to gank with Lunchboxes, in the event that actually ever happens. (When was the last time you saw that?)
So... just about nothing. Minor, non-game-destroying tweaks. Whoopdie doo.
Corsair and Outcast changes - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-07-2009
Full kraken + inferno sabres now has even more anti-cap potencial.
2 sabres could easily kill LABC with infernos before the inferno tweak. It will be even easier now.
Corsair and Outcast changes - mjolnir - 12-07-2009
how do those 2 sabres keep him from cruising around everytime he looses shield?
Corsair and Outcast changes - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-07-2009
simple, he is to stupid to cruisse?
Ech im jus tired to try talk at anything. Anyhow I don't like the changes. Made my points. Thats enought I guess. I won't change anything anyhow. No-one of us won't anyway.
Corsair and Outcast changes - Akura - 12-07-2009
He has a point, though my LR Werewolf just got better.
Corsair and Outcast changes - Prysin - 12-07-2009
Well outcasts never had an advantage in sabre vs titan, except the krakanes...
well inferno instakills shield and you use the next 12 seconds dodging until you can fire your gun efficiently again.
Mount 3 tizona and 3 salamanca.... it will rape the sabre since titan can take more beating, shoot longer, and is generally annoying as hell to hit. its almost on the brink of cheating to use a titan while being skilled with it...
so new update.... only good for those cool enough to buy an inferno and use it against crusiers and gunboats
Corsair and Outcast changes - Sprolf - 12-07-2009
Heh... you raise a few good points which some others have neglected to consider here.