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Bot/Batt Leaching - chopper - 03-16-2008
I have nothing against NPC 'farming'.
I do have against BS's transferring bots/bats to fighters.
It happened many times, we have 2vs2 fair battle, we'r wining, an enemy BS comes and supplies them with bots.
It's not a problem to dodge him, a problem is that you can't fight - because you can't down a BS.
Repair ship? Ok, it is supposed to supply bots/bats and it can be taken down.
BS can't with 2,3,4 fighters, so it just unbalances a fight.
Bot/Batt Leaching - Jinx - 03-16-2008
actually - its not quite right ... the idea of "if someone is going down, getting bats / bots won t help him"
i fly two bombers - and a lot about the nova jousts is about luck. lag, associating the enemies movement etc. - for some its skill - but in my case... i score hits by pure luck - so, the longer i live, the more chances to be lucky.
more bats, bots = live longer
Bot/Batt Leaching - ParanoidAndroid - 03-16-2008
' Wrote:actually - its not quite right ... the idea of "if someone is going down, getting bats / bots won t help him"
What idea? It's not any idea, it's my statment based on my current experience, in all my fights when someone was running out of bats/bots and tried to farm some he always lost much more then earned this way. Mainly it concerns fighters or gb, noting bigger.
And as chopper said, most regrettable acting is when some capital shows up and supply fighters and other with bats/bots. I have met such a situation few times and it's so goddamn irritating when some dumb just spoil whole fun and balance of fight.
Bot/Batt Leaching - mjolnir - 03-16-2008
Voted NO... (and it wasn't me he fought... that would have ended different way :P )
To quote Jinx
' Wrote:well, its a roleplay server in the first place. - so, for a character, there is little difference between a playertarget and a NPC target. both represent hostiles; some are more skilled ( players usually ) and some are less skilled ( hopefully NPCs usually [except centurion pilots, who are gods] ).
I agree with this 100% NPCs can be a real pain sometimes... for example if you are in a bomber against a fighter... you need to make long tuns on e-kill(since you turn slower)... while you turn the NPCs always hit you... often much more than the enemy player.
But mining your own NPCs... that's a big no:nono:
And as Paranoid said... it actually almost doesn't make difference... if you are better than him.. you win anyway... and it prolongs the fight only in seconds (since you get some 4 bots per NPC).
Bot/Batt Leaching - wrathkin - 03-16-2008
' Wrote:I do have against BS's transferring bots/bats to fighters.
It happened many times, we have 2vs2 fair battle, we'r wining, an enemy BS comes and supplies them with bots.
It's not a problem to dodge him, a problem is that you can't fight - because you can't down a BS.
Repair ship? Ok, it is supposed to supply bots/bats and it can be taken down.
BS can't with 2,3,4 fighters, so it just unbalances a fight.
But.. but... why should the fight be balanced unless its an arena match?
If the BS cannot catch you, it makes perfect sense for it to provide support for those that can. What you are saying is like saying that a BS cannot have fighter escort 'cause then the bombers cant' get through.
Well, not quite, is like saying that your enemy should not use their catapults against you, since they are made to take down walls. Well, they are your _enemies_ after all.
Bot/Batt Leaching - ParanoidAndroid - 03-16-2008
' Wrote:If the BS cannot catch you, it makes perfect sense for it to provide support for those that can.
Yes and I wish you luck to take down a hostile figter which other BS/BC whatever, is supplying him with bats/nono.
I really really WISH YOU to find yourself in a such fight...
Maybe this would change your outlook a little bit. For me it's oorp same as farming friendly npcs. But this first one totally spoils the whole fun.
Bot/Batt Leaching - Etaphreven - 03-16-2008
Voted no.
Like some people said, one should have the right to pick targets in a combat, wether they are NPC or PC. But I'm all against farming your own NPCs.. that's pure OORP.
Bot/Batt Leaching - Reverend Del - 03-16-2008
' Wrote:Voted no.It's rare I agree with Eta, it truly is, but he's right.
Like some people said, one should have the right to pick targets in a combat, wether they are NPC or PC. But I'm all against farming your own NPCs.. that's pure OORP.
Paranoid I play a Xeno, I suffer from what you describe, but this is an RP server and things just aren't supposed to be fair, certain types of unfair are much less acceptable than others, in a fighter/ fighter fight, no Capship should interfere, until it is involved in the combat, by the opposing force. Like most have said farming friendly NPC's very very bad. But farming your enemy NPC's , that's fine, capship already in the battle, because he was engaged by his enemies and supplying his wingmen with stuff all fine. Sometimes being the underdog sucks.
Bot/Batt Leaching - Dieter Schprokets - 03-16-2008
RP does not govern.
Gameplay does.
I may be in the minority on that general opinion, but if you disagree with me you are wrong.*
:P
Extending a 45 minute battle to 1.5 hours via npc farming is just a recipe for frustration, and carpal tunnel.
npc farming is in bad form and should not be allowed.
It is also in a sense out of RP because it gives an advantage to the side with the most NPC enemies. Kinda illogical, don't ya think?
* : Disclaimer. The above is tongue-in-cheek. Do not flame.
Bot/Batt Leaching - mjolnir - 03-16-2008
' Wrote:Extending a 45 minute battle to 1.5 hours via npc farming is just a recipe for frustration, and carpal tunnel.
The numbers are a bit off don't you think?
It prolong the fight by mere seconds...
and for most often the reason for shooting enemy NPCs is not to get bats/bots... but to stop them shooting on me..
if you come with I rule like this... I actually can't defend myself. Tell this to a Corsair under fire from 12 BHG NPCs in Gamma.