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AFA and Bretonia - sovereign - 06-08-2008
' Wrote:In context:
Corsairs in Liberty.
Rogues in Bretonia.
Corsairs: "OH! OH! I have teh reezons cuz we no liek teh rog'z."
Rogues: "The... Outcasts told us so?"
Now,
Farmers: "We're going to blast millions of credits on fuel and these ever-popular Eagles of ours assaulting people who we really don't care about. Actually, in our absence, 30,000 crates of Synth probably came about from Liberty. Oh well... We certainly have no reason whatsoever to take the snake by its head. Perhaps it's shed skin? Yes, that'll be a good place to start! To Bretonia!"
No reason. Whatsoever.
This isn't the French Resistance we're talking about here. It's Farmers who want their jobs and so they batter back Synth Foods. Thats it. Leave national enemies to the military, leave personal vendettas to themselves.
You're right, it isn't the French Resistance, its the corporate enforcers of a very wealthy corporation that has semi-control over the government. If the government offers Samura some kick-back in return for a token of good faith in the war, they will send out their goons (the FA) to get such a token of good faith. Like, say, invading Bretonia. Plus, the FA will get great press and renewed support from the Kusari people- the few of them they send might lose a shipment of Synth Foods, but they'll get intel from new supporters who will fetch them times, names, all kinds of stuff that will make it worth it.
And Samura probably got paid nicely for it judging by the success.
AFA and Bretonia - Teknikal - 06-08-2008
I'm for anything that makes Bretonian space more active I have toyed with the Idea of making a Bretonian character but I know I'd soon get bored of sitting in empty systems. I was suprised when they even made peace with the UOG I think Bretonia badly need's more going on.
AFA and Bretonia - Marburg - 06-08-2008
' Wrote:This isn't the French Resistance we're talking about here. It's Farmers who want their jobs and so they batter back Synth Foods. Thats it.That's one way to look at it
It's also an outstanding way to discourage people from trying to play an AFA character.
Ever met a pissed off farmer?
There is alot of great RP that can come from that one little thing...after all, it's said that we are all only 3 meals away from revolution.
I disagree %110 w/ the idea of pigeonholing a faction simply because the gamemakers didn't fully develop the idea.
& as AoM said: "Well, AFA is based on FA, but they have a different roleplay"
AFA and Bretonia - Magoo! - 06-08-2008
Still. The question is, is it OORP or not?
Yes. If Kusari hasn't advanced into Leeds yet, I highly, HIGHLY doubt a bunch of misfit farmers could do what the Navy couldn't. I also doubt that it's a, "Well we could, but we haven't gotten around to it yet" on the KNF's part.
-Edit- Again, Farmers should leave the heavy lifting to the Navy. It's about as loosely based as saying,
"Well, I'm friendly with the Order whose allies are the Zoners whose allies are the GMG and *since* the GMG hates Rheinland, that makes it okay for my Hogosha character to attack the RM!"
AFA and Bretonia - Zelot - 06-08-2008
Here goes. (*revs up flamethrower*)
First of I think anyone who wants to talk about the AFA's RP really ought to find out what it is before the start criticizing it. I find myself having to explain the SAME things OVER and OVER and OVER, Honestly I am getting really tired of it, and I am quickly losing Patience with it.
Those of you who say AFA in Bretonia is the same as Corsairs in Liberty, you are idiots. Corsairs have no Friends in Liberty and the only enemies they have there are the Outcasts, and why would the Corsairs go all the way to Liberty to fight the Outcasts when they could just go to Eta and Alpha. Those who say the Liberty Rouges are enemies of the Corsairs...again...idiots. Rouges and Corsairs have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Yes the LR are Allies of the OC, and the Sairs and OC are at war, but that has absolutely nothing to do with LR. The Odds are that a particular LR or Sair would never come within 4 systems of the other in their entire life. They have no contact.
The AFA's main base of operations as well as support is the Kusari system of Kyushu. Kyushu is the closest Kusari system to Bretonia, and deals with QCF raids on a semi regular basis.(I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT) Because of this members of the AFA have developed a very bitter relationship with Bretonia. It is completely OORP to think that AFA would ignore raid after raid by the Bretonians, and not respond. Those who think the AFA should be allowed to be attacked by the Bretonians and not respond....yet again...idiots.
For you who continuously seem to think that the AFA is a bunch of guys who fly ships and then go home and pick vegetables. I don't know how many times I have to say this...someone please give me a number and I will bang out that many posts right now. I doesn't seem many of the people criticizing us have even read one thread about AFA RP, because I say the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over......and over. The AFA is an organization that was started by Farmers who had been put out of work, but has grown to be a blanket organization representing Kusari in all sectors of industry that have been harmed by foreign competition, miners, manufacturing workers, tech jobs, as well as a good number of former KNF pilots that have finished their service to the Military, and former Samura escort pilots who are looking for a more effective way to protect Kusari economic interests. There are many of us, myself included who come from farming families, who know how to farm, but left that for something else. Now I think if I have to for (hopefully) the last time say this...." The AFA are not necessarily Farmers, and to suggest that they shouldn't be able to fly well because of that is...well.....idiotic.
For the incident today.
Thanks to the BPA and QCF that we got to have a go with. Great fun hope to do it again real soon. Earl Charles, sir, it was a delightful conversation, and I hope to blow your ship out from under you at a later date:P. Now just so every one knows, this is what went down. I in my stinger (which had been docked at Islay) decided to take a little jump to Leeds, and see if I could get some successful "Interdiction" going. For those of you who don't know, Interdiction is about weakening your enemy by attacking their supply lines. (Adrian will probably add a more complete definition of Interdiction is one of the next few posts:P) While attacking a trader, I was engaged by 2 (I believe) of the Queens finest:wacko:. The were soon joined by another, and the transport I had attacked decided to attack me as well. (whoop) So it was 3 on 1 with a transport attacking as well. I only say this to respond to the idea we were somehow PVP whoring or Cap whoring or whatever. Global joined me after about 25 mins or so, and then another QCR jumped in and a BH, and then 2 more AFA. If was a fight, and a good one at that, with good rp reasons behind it. A piece of advise to all of you who would decry someones RP over system chat. First bring it to private, second, don't say "Hey WTF, Your OORP, Your out of your ZOI" instead how bout trying "Hey, whats going on? You guys are a bit far from home, any reason why?"
Finally (*Adds last bit of petrol to flamethrower*) For those of you who criticize peoples RP when they have not taken the time to find out about it... Go look in a mirror.
@Magoo. Get a clue
@Tenacity. Why is it ok to take your Junker into Kusari, the one place in the entirety of Sirius that is OORP for a Junker? Oh yeah, it's so you can do the "Noobium" run. I am so tired of people who have to make some comment on every single thread wither it has anything to do with them or not, whether your opinion is in any way educated or not. You want to say we are PVP whore? Well I will stop PVP whoring when you stop post whoring. I wouldn't be surprised if you have posted in 75% of the total forum threads in the time you have been here, and most of them go something like this...
"Well, it really doesn't have anything to do with me but......" or "I really don't have an opinion on this, but......" Or "the AFA's RP sucks cause they wouldn't let my junker go though Kusari without a problem, and they didn't by my BS RP story." So Please, if you don't have something to do with a topic, or don't have anything worth while to say, just don't say anything..please.
(*flamethrower sputters, and goes out*)
Well for those of you with legitamate questions or comments, bring them on over to the AFA faction feedback thread.
Now I am tired. Night folks.
AFA and Bretonia - Marburg - 06-08-2008
I'm gonna continue to disagree...
It's not a large stretch of the imagination to think that a small group can fly into Bretonia 'under the radar' & seek a little revenge.
I never said it was a smart choice, but it's definately within RP.
They have a place or 2 in the neighborhood to safely dock & commence an occasional hit & run if they so choose... & it's not like it was an invasion force.
On occasion, I head up to Kusari for a weekend to 86 some BD's & GC's & it's completely in RP.
I have enemys AND some safe harbors up there.
If everyone in the world left all the killing up to the military, then the media wouldn't always be trying to scare us w/ the threat of terrorisim all over the place.
Let's face it, sometimes the chain of command can just choke the fight right out of you, but a small angry militia can scare the bejezus out of an entire society w/ just a little bit of effort.
AFA and Bretonia - sovereign - 06-08-2008
I'd also like to point out that the Kusari Navy can't not break into Leeds, there is a healthy Kusari Gunboat patrol focus around the jumpgate to Tau-31. Plus, he was there from Islay, nudge nudge the Gaians are on Kusari's side, nudge nudge that system has a handy jumphole to both Tau-31 and Leeds (and Dundee and Londonderry...). The FA also aren't too shabby in the funding region, they are funded rather sweetly by Samura, THE wealthiest anything anywhere (even the Outcasts might not be that rich... and they are rich beyond imagining) as well as, in ooRP terms, having some of the nicest Neutron guns at their disposal, as well as 4.00 refire Plasma guns within reason (Hogosha guns).
I think the occasional raid is acceptable.
AFA and Bretonia - ryoken - 06-08-2008
Outcasts in Gamma?... they might have a reason to be there due to the outcast/corsair war... but think hard on the situation. Outcasts have to travel through around a dozen systems of very much hostile space to even get to gamma, likewise for corsairs going to alpha - and that's assuming either faction even KNOWS where the other faction's home is (which they probably dont).
Um wrong they need to travel through 3 system's. 1 zoner, 1 outcast/corsair shared.
You need to "discover" a little more. hehe
AFA and Bretonia - SimonBlack - 06-08-2008
No! Synth's, run! They are here now too!
AFA and Bretonia - globalplayer-svk - 06-08-2008
' Wrote:And Zelot, you spelled Bretonia wrong in the thread title. If you are going to invade someplace other than Czechoslovakia, you should probably know how to spell it.:lol:
Czechoslovakia no more exist :crazy: only czech republic and Slovakia :P
and back to topic
someone here say that farmers in bretonia is the same as corsairs in liberty. well, it is not the same. all scream that for corsairs is oorp be in liberty because they have no allies there. outcast can be in liberty(and i think it is ok for them) because they have allies there. gaians are in bretonia no ? our allies. so we have allies there? yes. can we go to bretonia? yes.
other thing. farmers have base in kyushu and they activity is biggest in kyushu. when bretonians attack kusari, what is the first system they have in way? Kyushu. who is in kyushu? Farmers. So when someone attack you home, and finally you have ship and you can defend yourself or attack him back. will you make that? Yes. Why? because you are angry from raids on your home. and the funniest thing is, that noone was yesterday screaming on that corsairs cruiser, who killed one of AFA member, coming from tau system that he is far from zoi, they scream that we are oorp....
and tenacity. is it oorp for junker to be in kusari, where he has no allies and no reason to be?