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RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Zen_Mechanics - 02-24-2014
Battleship is a battleship, colony ship can be imagined as small as a rock for all i care, because we dont have a past represntation of it, unlike battleships - but when you claim to rp a whale as a battleship, your doing a very big mistake. In that case, I'll rp my bastet as a huge osiris and talk the nommies to death, after all - i have a battleship, and they will be forced to sundive ( or suicide ) because I have 13 imagined turrets that killed them. So i'll repeat myself, If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship/colony-ship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship/colony-ship in a fight?
You CANT. So, lets stop telling others that we can "continue rp our battleships with whales/bisons/toothfairy".
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Cælumaresh - 02-24-2014
i aint against the idea. But at least give it a decent defensive capability, unlike the Whale.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - .Gypsy. - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 08:23 PM)Haste Wrote: Colony ship =/= Battleship.
You don't have to roleplay a Battleship to roleplay a Colony ship.
Again... If this is directed toward me.. I didnt care if it were a battleship or not..
If its not directed to me.... then ignore this comment
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - t0l - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 08:08 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship in a fight?
That's like saying Bastet can be a battleship - so it must not leave the omicrons, but thats just a cheap example.
I can rp a super weapon and destroy the nomad lair, do I have that weapon? no - can I rp it ? Yes, will it take a physical effect? no, Can I prove it? no, why? because I dont have the representation of it.
Or a better one : I can rp 4 barges as 4 battleships against 2 REAL battleships, can I claim victory? Or will we end up dead ?
Arguement closed, next excuse to remove zoner caps please.
This arguement is not closed, it never existed.
I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.
No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.
You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Zen_Mechanics - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 08:40 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:08 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship in a fight?
That's like saying Bastet can be a battleship - so it must not leave the omicrons, but thats just a cheap example.
I can rp a super weapon and destroy the nomad lair, do I have that weapon? no - can I rp it ? Yes, will it take a physical effect? no, Can I prove it? no, why? because I dont have the representation of it.
Or a better one : I can rp 4 barges as 4 battleships against 2 REAL battleships, can I claim victory? Or will we end up dead ?
Arguement closed, next excuse to remove zoner caps please.
This arguement is not closed, it never existed.
I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.
No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.
You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?
No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.
Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Sath - 02-24-2014
One more post as I cant resist myself.
I dont mean any offence to anyone in particular,just some general thought,dont attack me,I am a newbie
Every ship has its own typical usage.Transports are meant to transport,Battleships are meant to be capital warships.If I use a battleship to trade,I ofcourse can,I can make RP stories of my own that I owned a Battleship as I was rich and then traded in it to show off that I am rich,I will be ridiculed.The same goes with the BWT concept of yours being RPed as a colony ship.Thats where the term lolwut arises,and people are actually made fun for the very same purpose.
Blatant reasons are being given just because people,for some reason,want the Zoners to be grounded.I cant understand why.The people who speak against the Zoners here(most of them) dont actually play a Zoner.Then why bother about them.They didnt shove up the Nephilims through the doorstep of your nearest base/planet and went all guns blazing,pew pew.Had they done that,of course,they were sanctioned.To all the people who were reasoning here against the Zoners,will you be quiet if you have your faction assets removed?
And before hell breaks loose,everyone can find loopholes,thousands of them,in every lore.So,if the devs can just shift their rage from Zoners to any other factions,there will be another group of people who will come out with godly reasons to try and reduce that faction.It all boils down to personal hatred in one form or other.No one is saint enough to reason against the fun of a faction for the good of the community as a whole.If they had thought so,they wont do it,just because,such things can cause in some people quitting the server.So everyone who wants the Zoners to be deprieved of BS,just have their own personal greeds as I have for the Zoner faction and my faction in particular as a whole.Just that if this goes through in the favour of Zoners,everything will be the same as before.If the change is implemented though,you can see some people quit disco altogether,and I can sense that it is going to happen at last.
Just play the game for fun.Dont make this server not so fun,in its dying days.Keep the fun alive as long as this server loses its activity in a few days due to the new games of this genre.Dont make this a full RP/lore and forum oriented server in its sunset days.We have to keep the lulz to some extent in the game,so that weall can have equal fun.
I mean no offence to anyone here.And please,kindly dont regard my saying as personal,I am here to have fun,as long as it is here.When the fun goes away,so will I,along with me,many others who are not so vets and seasoned players here.Thanks for tolerating all the bull crap of this post.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - .Gypsy. - 02-24-2014
Nice post sathish.wazza, I agree, to be honest, I couldn't give a flip about lore, lore is not why I play, I play this video game to have fun and for no other reason.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - t0l - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 09:00 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:40 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:08 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship in a fight?
That's like saying Bastet can be a battleship - so it must not leave the omicrons, but thats just a cheap example.
I can rp a super weapon and destroy the nomad lair, do I have that weapon? no - can I rp it ? Yes, will it take a physical effect? no, Can I prove it? no, why? because I dont have the representation of it.
Or a better one : I can rp 4 barges as 4 battleships against 2 REAL battleships, can I claim victory? Or will we end up dead ?
Arguement closed, next excuse to remove zoner caps please.
This arguement is not closed, it never existed.
I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.
No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.
You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?
No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.
Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.
You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.
Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?
Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.
At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.
EDIT: How about I go about and roleplay in a Whale, and pretend to be a battleship? I'm sure I and the others involved will have many laughs and much fun.
And how would RPing a BWT as a colony ship be "lolwutty"?
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Zen_Mechanics - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 09:19 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 09:00 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:40 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:08 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship in a fight?
That's like saying Bastet can be a battleship - so it must not leave the omicrons, but thats just a cheap example.
I can rp a super weapon and destroy the nomad lair, do I have that weapon? no - can I rp it ? Yes, will it take a physical effect? no, Can I prove it? no, why? because I dont have the representation of it.
Or a better one : I can rp 4 barges as 4 battleships against 2 REAL battleships, can I claim victory? Or will we end up dead ?
Arguement closed, next excuse to remove zoner caps please.
This arguement is not closed, it never existed.
I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.
No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.
You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?
No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.
Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.
You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.
Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?
Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.
At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.
No no, You see I write 13 pages everyday for my studies because I have to, I write my rp in disco because I like it, and among the things I like are, being one, flying a real battleship that I actually also RP in text. You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you. You want to do that, be our guest - but dont even think about putting this excuse as an attempt to slash our "toys" away. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - t0l - 02-24-2014
(02-24-2014, 09:22 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote:(02-24-2014, 09:19 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 09:00 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:40 PM)Tal Wrote:(02-24-2014, 08:08 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If you dont have the physical representation of a battleship and dont have the muscle to back it up, how can you rp as a battleship in a fight?
That's like saying Bastet can be a battleship - so it must not leave the omicrons, but thats just a cheap example.
I can rp a super weapon and destroy the nomad lair, do I have that weapon? no - can I rp it ? Yes, will it take a physical effect? no, Can I prove it? no, why? because I dont have the representation of it.
Or a better one : I can rp 4 barges as 4 battleships against 2 REAL battleships, can I claim victory? Or will we end up dead ?
Arguement closed, next excuse to remove zoner caps please.
This arguement is not closed, it never existed.
I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.
No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.
You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?
No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.
Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.
You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.
Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?
Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.
At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.
No no, You see I write 13 pages everyday for my studies because I have to, I write my rp in disco because I like it, and among the things I like are, being one, flying a real battleship that I actually also RP in text. You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you. You want to do that, be our guest - but dont even think about putting this excuse as an attempt to slash our "toys" away. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what.
I never said you had to RP caps as transports or vice-versa. Unless you have a colony ship, this did not pertain to you.
And you do not need a battleship for RP, especially Zoner RP.