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RE: Banned from Bering - Kalhmera - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 06:51 PM)DarkTails Wrote: You wouldn't like my ideal option of how Govs should run (no player control)
Crazy how we should not be able to do RP, only the devs/gms should right? They have all the time to do it.
RE: Banned from Bering - Haste - 05-22-2019
It's pretty safe to say Libgov passed this law because a couple of Liberty Lawful players that have been assisting Auxesia in the ongoing Bering event were bored out of their minds during inactive hours in Bering.
By adding this (temporary) law they simply have more valid targets to keep themselves occupied while the event goes on.
RE: Banned from Bering - TLI-Inferno - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:16 PM)Haste Wrote: It's pretty safe to say Libgov passed this law because a couple of Liberty Lawful players that have been assisting Auxesia in the ongoing Bering event were bored out of their minds during inactive hours in Bering.
By adding this (temporary) law they simply have more valid targets to keep themselves occupied while the event goes on.
You and I haven't been looking at the same Bering.
Bering has had several large-scale conflicts, every day, with people often waiting 30 minutes and regrouping, waiting for the other side to also regroup, to launch and fight again. (I'm not complaining. This is good and fun, and I've taken part on both sides of this conflict -- but not on mining or hauling characters).
Adding civilians to the target list was not needed.
Additionally, the way this law has been enforced is not serving its purpose. They're not stopping smugglers. They're checking the chat list to stop scrap miners.
Every time I've logged a scrap mining ship, I've seen LSF immediately fly an LABC to the scrap field. Not to Freeport 2. Not to Pacifica. Not to the Texas jumpgate. Not to the Hamburg jumphole. Not to the military salvage field. Not to anywhere associated with criminal activity. To the SCRAP field.
They approach the scrap field with capital ships before I can even unload a single freighter hold of scrap. Every time. Like stopping people from mining scrap is their only priority.
Also, isn't the scrap field outside of their ZOI, being on the Rheinland side of Bering?
RE: Banned from Bering - SnakThree - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:40 PM)TLI-Inferno Wrote:(05-22-2019, 07:16 PM)Haste Wrote: It's pretty safe to say Libgov passed this law because a couple of Liberty Lawful players that have been assisting Auxesia in the ongoing Bering event were bored out of their minds during inactive hours in Bering.
By adding this (temporary) law they simply have more valid targets to keep themselves occupied while the event goes on.
You and I haven't been looking at the same Bering.
Bering has had several large-scale conflicts, every day, with people often waiting 30 minutes and regrouping, waiting for the other side to also regroup, to launch and fight again.
Adding civilians to the target list was not needed.
Additionally, the way this law has been enforced is not serving its purpose. They're not stopping smugglers. They're checking the chat list to stop scrap miners.
Every time I've logged a scrap mining ship, I've seen LSF immediately fly an LABC to the scrap field. Not to Freeport 2. Not to Pacifica. Not to the Texas jumpgate. Not to the Hamburg jumphole. Not to the military salvage field. Not to anywhere associated with criminal activity. To the SCRAP field.
They approach the scrap field with capital ships before I can even unload a single freighter hold of scrap. Every time. Like stopping people from mining scrap is their only priority.
Also, isn't the scrap field outside of their ZOI, being on the Rheinland side of Bering?
Deal with it inRP. Or report it as rule violation if it was such.
RE: Banned from Bering - Jayce - 05-22-2019
You say "every time." This was the first time I've done it at all. Note how I let you go without even a fine, when one of the Congress representatives suggested I give you one.
RE: Banned from Bering - Haste - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:40 PM)TLI-Inferno Wrote: You and I haven't been looking at the same Bering.
We have been. I'm not saying that I think there aren't enough targets as is. I'm just saying that the motivations for the law are likely to kill whatever "dead time" there is.
That and to add the option to use LSF/LPI/LN ID'd ships to intercept those participating on the Unioner side of the trade event all over Liberty.
I've already said elsewhere that I highly doubt it's healthy to allow players to effectively make changes to the "fairness" or "balance" of a trade event by, in this case, changing laws. While this particular case may not be abusive, it could set a bad precedent.
RE: Banned from Bering - Lythrilux - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:16 PM)Haste Wrote: It's pretty safe to say Libgov passed this law because a couple of Liberty Lawful players that have been assisting Auxesia in the ongoing Bering event were bored out of their minds during inactive hours in Bering.
By adding this (temporary) law they simply have more valid targets to keep themselves occupied while the event goes on.
This also adds a needless layer of complexity onto the basic Junker gameplay loop, with the expectation that indies should be immediatley aware (and we all know indies who don't know better are going to be blown up out of the sky and be utterly confused over what happened). There's also the fact that this is treating a non-contraband commodity(ies), that does not have contraband pricing, as contraband. I'd be happy to support it if it had a silver lining for Junkers, but it doesn't.
RE: Banned from Bering - TLI-Inferno - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:45 PM)Jayce Wrote: You say "every time." This was the first time I've done it at all. Note how I let you go without even a fine, when one of the Congress representatives suggested I give you one.
You're not the only LABC.
RE: Banned from Bering - Saronsen - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:52 PM)Haste Wrote: That and to add the option to use LSF/LPI/LN ID'd ships to intercept those participating on the Unioner side of the trade event all over Liberty.
Reminder that there's been an embargo into Bering for an extremely long time and that lib forces getting involved is nothing new
Imagine 30 different players all rushing for Bering with the same exact cargo all day and the lib forces NOT getting involved in it lmao
RE: Banned from Bering - Sombs - 05-22-2019
(05-22-2019, 07:59 PM)TLI-Inferno Wrote:(05-22-2019, 07:45 PM)Jayce Wrote: You say "every time." This was the first time I've done it at all. Note how I let you go without even a fine, when one of the Congress representatives suggested I give you one.
You're not the only LABC.
He's the only one that matters.