' Wrote:I think the best solution to this would just be to allow official, approved factions to control all ships of their respective NPC faction larger than GBs. Would solve a lot of problems for all of us.

' Wrote::mellow:

We are talking about high Liberty BC count and possible ships for other houses.

Go take your anti-independent attitude into your own independent-bashing thread. (Or one of Sindroms.)

Quote:We are talking about high Liberty BC count and possible ships for other houses

Go take your anti-independent attitude into your own independent-bashing thread. (Or one of Sindroms.)

' Wrote:Hey hey, that's not the problem... Thread "Independent should be allowed to fly LF only" is nextdoors.

It's more about balance of Lib... and all other BC.

Why is it beloved ships class and overused? Well, it's the "largests-strongest" thing right after battleship class, yet price is rather nice. Who has the opinion (faction-wise) to get BC or Cruiser... usually goes for BC. Logically.

' Wrote:ZING! Yes, please. I cant stand people that want "official" factions to rule over everyone else.

' Wrote:You will find that he is not asking them to rule over anyone. Nor is he asking for them to have absolute control. He is not anti-indie, he is anti-idiot. There is a considerable difference between asking for a faction to be able to regulate the Capital Ships, thus reducing the number of those which end up in the hands of complete morons, and giving them complete control of everything that comes out of their Shipyards. Poor wording on his part.
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They answer to nobody, and can effectively shoot whoever and whatever they want, provided they give a simple one line of text.

' Wrote:Do you really think a faction-regulated system, given the power, will approve a one-line capital ship registration?

Of course not. Factions expect their players to be on for months if not years before moving on the the largest ships.

You can't really blame the factions- after all, they have put a lot of work into their RP and it's only logical that they should want the power to destroy anybody within the NPC faction who disagrees with them.

' Wrote:It has been written elsewhere that a BC can be taken down by a cruiser with a good pilot. Well, good luck to him I say! If the pilots are of equal skill, I know where I'd put my money.

' Wrote:Nooblet, you once said it was a violation of Freedom or some such. That's in the case of extremism, absolute freedom. Absolute freedom may seem like a good concept, you can shoot up on drugs without fear of the 'fuzz', you can have as many wives as you want, drive as fast as you want, yadda, yadda, yadda, but when somebody's 'popping a cap in yo' ass' and you suddenly realise he's going to get away with it because there's no laws to say he's doing something wrong, how are you going to feel then? Because until there's -some- kind of restriction put into place, that's exactly the same as the indies. They answer to nobody, and can effectively shoot whoever and whatever they want, provided they give a simple one line of text.

As to the Battlecruiser being 'strongest', Siege Cruisers tend to hurt them a lot more for their size. They have a forward gun and high strafing for something relatively large. If indies are choosing the Battlecruiser because of its size, then I guess that just enforces the point that some 'Indies are idiots'.

Edit - On re-reading my post, not all of it is entirely relevant, but I felt it necessary to say something against the 'anti-faction' people around here.

Edit 2 - Reworded a statement, covering my arse. You vultures will take everything word-for-word if it suits you.

Quote:I find it amusing that people point out that others relate faction leaders and faction control measures to Hitler and fascism. I find it even more amusing, when "the other side" brings up the anarchy of independent players, contained within a spaceship game and relates it to shooting up on drugs and speeding.

Quote:That's in the case of extremism

' Wrote:To cap off the laughter, the independents are restricted, by exactly the same things the factions are restricted by. It is universal and equal. We call them the server rules. Everyone answers to them. (At least, they should.)

Quote:As for the inevitable anti-climax, which can only be brought about by such gargantuan ignorance, to make such stupidity seem humourless, how am I anti-faction, considering, I am in more factions than you are JakeSG?