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A Discovery without Capital Ships - Nightmouse - 07-07-2009
I'm against removing caps, although the biggest ship I have is a Bastet
BUT: (I'm going to burn at the stake for this)
I think player factions should be able to police their indies with a capital ship. For instance, yesterday when I was guarding Toledo with said Bastet, a BH BS shows up, asking "PVP anyone?".
I mean, come on, idiots like that deserve to be shot at by their own group.
Although a system would be needed to ensure the factions hand out their ships in a fair way.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - atlantis2112 - 07-07-2009
Voted no, I think its the same thing as everyone else. People are the problem, not the ships..
Quote: Remove all ships
Or this.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - Irra - 07-07-2009
I was there too ... it was funny ... we tried to respond with RP .... ah ... failed ....
Same happened to me in California ... i was pirating trader for 50k credits and indy cruiser came buy and started shooting ... i tried to cruise away he disrupted me ... i continued thrusting ... away and then he broke RP .. he started talking i am fleeing and rule braking so he cruised after me ... I tried to respond with RP (saying rogues don't follow lawful rules and i think that made it worse he thought i am meaning server rules or something) ... i called 2 rogues with bombers to help me ... we took him out ... he come back in system again later and left i think soon ... but seems guy got sanctioned and something ...
JUST TWO EXAMPLES OF BAD PEOPLE PILOTING BIG SHIPS.
I voted NO. This game wouldn't be this game if there are no Capital ships ... or any of them ...
Maybe one thing is restriction for capitals .... maybe demand from faction is crew list and short rp story of captain if someone can make that sure it can fly capital .... and no problems .... I hate when capital ship show up and from clear sky say HELLO! ... i didn't know there is one man on ship ... it should be a crew or something.
Rule braking ... for capitals ... i say striping armor upgrades ... and they will think long time before they brake them again and go trade for weeks to get same upgrade again.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - swift - 07-07-2009
Although I have a general problem with ship abusers, I don't have one with ships. They add specialty and flavor. No.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - Herastean - 07-07-2009
It cannot be possible, its not logic, i take a stupid exemple : Tomorrow the american navy will destroy his carrier, cruisers and submarines but will replace it by a lot of frigates. No, its not possible, how can we attack enemy bases or defend his houses bases like this? We NEED thoses ship, maybe we can make some "restriction" for the capital ships (i dont know which restriction), but not supress them.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - Jamez - 07-07-2009
I much preferred 'em as the ornaments they were back in the older mods, where a few fighters could kill caps.
If, as nearly all of you are saying - not that I believe all of you - that caps are for the RP, then surely the good RPers don't need it to be a loldeathmachine aswell?
Seems that if caps were put back to their weaker versions, only the people who truly love their ships and RP with them would keep them.
But of course, this will never happen, it would be too inconvenient compared to whining on the forums.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - teschy - 07-07-2009
I think you're missing the entire point of the Discovery mod. Capital ships hold a very important role in the RP and PvP environment , removing them means you're just going back to the dullness of the vanilla setup.
Discovery is broken, but not because of the ships, but because of the people - ranging from the newcomers all the way to the administration. It's just like that, Discovery needs a major brush up, but no one is willing to take suggestions, everyone is more concerned with their own fate rather than the collective. I could voice my feeling in endless walls of text, but it wouldn't change anything as long as no one is up for them.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - Zeltak - 07-07-2009
I personally hate flying capital ships, and I only fly Bombers or Fighters, during my whole stay here.
But hell no, we need those capital ships, they add a much richer role play environment and the most important thing, variety!
This is not the way to solve the whole "Capital Ship" problem...
And as Teschy said, the problem is about the people, the community. It has nothing to do with the actual "stuff" in-game.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - AdamantineFist - 07-07-2009
I vote we remove all ships except vanilla freighters, for only then could RP be pure!
Eh... really, you can't blame the ships here. Heck, I got two cruisers for myself not too long ago, and ever since I did, I've seen how it can be fun to RP in those sorts of ships. Nothing wrong with 'em, just with some of the folks we seem to have attracted.
A Discovery without Capital Ships - Colonel.Tigh - 07-07-2009
Remove all ships but the Starflyer.
honestly, Bigwaights are restricted enough as it is.