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Nova's and their like - bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2007
Fighters *don't* have enough energy to fire Novas reliably.
Bombers do, but that's their job. A good bomber pilot should maul a battleship. However, a good bomber pilot is no match for a good fighter pilot. Exactly as it should be.
Nova's and their like - me_b_kevin - 08-21-2007
i could agree to that.
i can see a fighter being able to fire a torpedo. but not a nova
Nova's and their like - Treewyrm - 08-21-2007
' Wrote:Bombers do, but that's their job. A good bomber pilot should maul a battleship. However, a good bomber pilot is no match for a good fighter pilot. Exactly as it should be.Single-handedly?
' Wrote:Fighters *don't* have enough energy to fire Novas reliably.
' Wrote:i can see a fighter being able to fire a torpedo. but not a nova*polishes nomad light fighter surface* probably should be renamed into light bomber...
Nova's and their like - bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2007
Yes. Definitely. If one shot from Luke can waste the Death Star, or one bomb from a WW2 bomber can take out a battleship, then why not?
Nova's and their like - Treewyrm - 08-21-2007
' Wrote:Yes. Definitely. If one shot from Luke can waste the Death Star, or one bomb from a WW2 bomber can take out a battleship, then why not?And one bomber can't take (at least should not) out SJ Sathanas (unless you get to areas not reachable for turrets. then again it would take eternity to ditch a stratch on it's surface). I don't like the idea of comparing it all to SW, FS or WW2 RL. That's where our opinions part because I think it should take a whole team to take out a battleship, not a single "luke" dropping a single "bomb" into a vent (besides he wasn't alone anyway), that's kind of a special event, I don't see a "luke" going on a bomber against Executor or whatever it's being called (tbh I hate SW).
Nova's and their like - bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2007
Well, if we aren't comparing it to real-life or other sources, where do we get our frames of reference for Nova-Armed bombers being 'overpowered'?
Nova's and their like - Treewyrm - 08-21-2007
' Wrote:Well, if we aren't comparing it to real-life or other sources, where do we get our frames of reference for Nova-Armed bombers being 'overpowered'?Did I say it was overpowered? Nope, I was only saying that I'd rather see it ammo-based and interceptable, two capabilities not necessarily resulting in major nerf. It all depends on the actual implementation.
Nova's and their like - me_b_kevin - 08-21-2007
' Wrote:Well, if we aren't comparing it to real-life or other sources, where do we get our frames of reference for Nova-Armed bombers being 'overpowered'?
you keep refering to bombers, when the actual topic is on nova's themselves. i know that sounds like flamming but i don't mean it to. i'm simply saying that Nova's do capital ship turret damage and i don't think that a fighter should be able to use them. but to keep the bomber guys happy i guess we could rationalize them somehow retrofitting a battleship powerplant onto a fighter sized ship.
or
just make them use ammo (powercells) to power them,. so what if you have to go back to base to re-arm, that is realistic.
Nova's and their like - Treewyrm - 08-21-2007
' Wrote:just make them use ammo (powercells) to power them,. so what if you have to go back to base to re-arm, that is realistic.Well, one thing I like about FS is that there are supply ships that can bring you more ammo if needed. In case of FL I don't see it happening so I guess a higher payload is needed so that like three bombers could take out a capital vessel without need to rearm, but taking two more capitals in a row - no.
Nova's and their like - bluntpencil2001 - 08-21-2007
Fighter's can't use them to any great effect. They use too much energy, and the refire is poor. You need a hell of a lot of practice to make them work on a fighter.
Anyway, the VHF class should be considered a fighter-bomber class anyway.
And you *cant* go back to base to re-arm. This counts as a death.
Also, a two or more cap ships should have decent fighter cover. This will prevent single bombers from taking them out.
Get fighters people!