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Calling on Bretonia - LancerZero - 11-07-2007
Hoo boy...I sense a bad moon on the rise.
I'm going to try to pre-empt some of it, though. First off, it used to be quite common for privateers to be employed by monarchies; though they generally used their own ships, it's hardly unheard-of.
Also, the QCP aren't pirates. Not strictly speaking, anyway. They only strike Kusari targets; and Bretonia and Kusari _are_ at war. Their purpose is to hit 'em below the belt, so to speak, while the QCO knees 'em in the face.
I didn't say that SF has a bad name for its purpose, I only said that another might suit its new purpose better.
And as for the QC* merging and becoming a security force...don't think so. Really, I think we're fairly efficient as we are. SF handles internal security, QCO does the military-on-military stuff, and the QCP hits the enemy's commerce. Sure, it might be more conventional if we were all under one name, but we might actually be more flexible this way. We're split into three groups, each with their own distinct duties.
Note: I've found I can argue for and against almost everything, so I often find myself playing devil's advocate. In this case, though, my opinion is ambiguous: a change might be easier in some ways, but will never happen because it would require a lot of work for (in my mind) very little (if any) gain.
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Also, remember that QCP are a branch of QCO. Much like how other factions use slightly varying tags, such as the SCRA. RAHF = Revolutionary Army Heavy Fighter as opposed to RAB = Revolutionary Army Bomber. QCP is like that within the QCO. The QCP, however, use a different ID, the Mercenary ID, to represent their 'Letters of Marque'. They are still BAF though...
Calling on Bretonia - LancerZero - 11-07-2007
Wow, people are replying to this much faster than I am.
Quote:maybe you should get in contact with them ask if one skilled member wants to come over to bretonian life and sort it all out to a presentable military colony not a rabble of pirates and people who are not 100% dedicated to Bretonia as they have connections with liberty
Okay, I take issue with that. We are not unskilled, and we are also very new; and the founding members (blunt and unselie) have a lot of classwork to do and thus have been unable to put together a full-up website and forums. They've already put a LOT of work into QCO and QCP; just because it's not all as polished as the RM (which have been around for quite some time) is no reflection on their or our dedication.
And we are most certainly not a rabble of pirates and people who don't care about Bretonia. You would learn otherwise if you would take the time to read more in our message dumps. Honestly, what you're saying doesn't make sense to me.
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Also, RM, having been around for years, only got a website a few weeks ago.
We don't really see a need for it when we have a message dump here. Plus, we don't want to appear exclusive, since we have a 'recruit the noobs' policy in QCO.
And the QCP, despite being Privateers, are more presentable than RM. I'm in both, and QCP are far more well-mannered towards the general public. The RM are the badass military, The QCO are the nice military who go home for tea and medals after a fight.
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
Suggested names:
QRG Queens Royal Guard or QCS Queen Carinas Security, Its unique to Bretonia and self explanatory internal dealers much like LSF role.
BAF Bretonian Armed Forces or BNA Bretonian Navy, It defends borders and engages out in warfare
but the names need to be more Bretonian and need to be two forces not free internal and external its simple it works, you see it as a waste of time but when people will actually want to join you it wont be. Right now its a state I have spoke to many outsiders of Bretonian clans and they all seem to think its a balls up but wont come on here to admit it, the work you do is great its just a confusing mess which needs renaming and reorganising with forums. Im sure if you asked an RM to come over and sort it out they would. Then people like myself can feel proud to be in a Bretonian organised faction.
But yea Kusari is empty so someone could start a fresh there really if they was cleared to do so by admins. Life for unlawful groups is just to easy and friends of mine joke that its Discover Pirates mod cause unlawfulness runs riot in the north and west, pirates can lane jump and jump gate to there hearts content all around Bretonia and Kusari without anyone challenging them I did it all day today, i encountered problems when i hit liberty as the good LSF and SA were on duty and engaged in a good roleplay. Kusari needs restarting and Bretonia needs renaming and reorganisising clearly of its dutys the names will define the duty clearer. They all need forums for the owning clan factions in particular, learn a lesson from RM and LSF there tight on piracy and its hard for pirates to travel around Rhineland and Liberty space.
Calling on Bretonia - Firebird - 11-07-2007
K, working on a reply but had my computer crash and having to retype:angry2:
I'll have an explaination for the reason SF has not been renamed BAF and replys to other comments in my next post. For now some patience please otherwise as AC_merc said I'll need to go through more pages.:rolleyes:
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
QCO is Bretonian...
Queen Carina's Own... perfect. They are not a guard faction (being based on an offensive ideal), nor are they a policing security force, so no point in changing it. The name is fine, and we aren't changing it for one non-member's (incorrect) personal preference.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about, either. I am in RM, as are some of our pilots. If you had encountered any of our pilots, you would see that we are roleplayers (who happen to have midterms this week).
And again, if you are piloting some crappy pirate fighter, you're the police's job. The armed forces have bigger fish to fry. Kusari fish, to be precise.
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
LOL, your bretonians manners are your say so, the Rhineland rp is not about manners of course they will be more rude and abrupt its there nature its how they are. Im sure a lot of work has gone in, I aint saying you should disband rename and reorganise your QC idea is truely great and unique but privateers... ouch i dont like it maybe a spainish queen would have privateers but a British queen definately not, Royal Guard is my suggestion and lose the Carina QRG.
My main issues here are: the Privateer linking with a bretonian queen of royal manners posh pirates dont cut it for me, if it was as i said hispania queen it would suit perfectly, but it is not.
The other issue is SF should not have that name and own Bretonian space its silly so it definately needs renaming if it is allowed to call itself Owning clan of Bretonians faction.
Truely though this is a smaller problem than the Kusari one, the KNF name works though, but to make it unique to Kusari a KSA Kusari Shogunate Army would be fitting, with a seperate KPF Kusari Provision Force so they would provide the public security or maybe if you wanna be common and not unique KSF Kusari Security Force if anyone got any Kusari names for inner security suggest them.
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Again, you miss the point!
QCO are, like the RM, a military force. Not Privateers. They have several Privateers as a part of this faction, which you would know if you read thee faction status.
Also, your historical knowledge is poor indeed. British Privateers were more common than Spanish ones in the Age of Sail... they attacked the treasure fleets on the Spanish Main, in fact. See: Sir Francis Drake.
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
I have spoke to a lot of people in game and on the teamspeak they all think Bretoniana needs reorganising and renaming they all think SF is silly to rule it and pirate mercenaries working for a queen is indeed silly, the rp quality im sure is divine that is not in question. What is in question is the Roleplay background it is not quiet fitting together in a gel, others dont read the forums who i have spoke to and they wont reply and others wish to remain anonymous cause they know members personally and feel not to upset anyone. I enjoy the roleplays when Bretonians are on but the system and setup is a bit of a shambles in many peoples eyes. But look on the bright side Kusari is a complete and utter non existant hunk of junk at the moment, so if you cant come round to public reform on Bretonia and take some steps yet, shall we focus on Kusari instead...?