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Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - jakub963 - 02-15-2012
@up: Or a bomber...
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Hades - 02-15-2012
' Wrote:If you'd know 85 better you could avoid getting stuck easily. Or, the easiest way at all: go to Cartagena in 81 and not to Corsica.If we apply some common sense they could shoot them to clear a path or when they hit them, would move them away.:rolleyes:
And yes, capital ships are meant to get stuck in asteroid fields. If we'd apply some common sense they should actually take damage there as well.
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - AeternusDoleo - 02-15-2012
' Wrote:Well, it indeed looks extremly weird when Valor gets stopped by an ice asteroid that's as big as a fighter's gun and is barely visible unless it's few meters away from you and you're in first person.Alternatively, we could enable collision damage with roids. High mass vs high mass collisions means lots and lots of damage. The non-shield kind. If you want realism that is. But I suspect you're just after making your bigbadbattleship behave much like a fighter does.
Newsflash. It's not a fighter. It doesn't do well in roid fields. It's not intended to do well in roidfields. Keep them in the lanes, or in asteroid exclusion zones. Capital ship battles are geared towards open space.
[Edit] Or get a nimble destroyer if you're that desperate to do capital ship activity in roidfields. The Storta isn't half bad in terms of maneuvering.
[Edit2]
' Wrote:I think adding passages through certain asteroid fields would be awesome. Really, caps aren't supposed to stuck on their way to Corsica base or omicron-Eta jump hole in omicron-85, for example.This is something that could be looked into. Many fields already have this set up - a small clear path 400m wide towards the nearest base. Not hard to do.
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Vladimir - 02-15-2012
Quote:Alternatively, we could enable collision damage with roids. High mass vs high mass collisions means lots and lots of damage. The non-shield kind.
Please do it.
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Zero755 - 02-15-2012
Better yet (if its doable) do away with static asteroids. One of Newton's pesky little laws says that an object in motion will remain in motion until acted on by another force. So if the asteroid the size of a fighter gun isnt pushed aside... it must have some dimensional space location anchoring whatchamacallit. Or make asteroids destructable. No need to make a path if people can fly and make their own.
But alternativley as already mentioned, paths would be nice. No caps shouldnt go through asteroid fields on a regular basis... but when the only way to get out of a system that sells your caps (Say on Corsica for instance) is through an asteroid field... I dunno, my two cents I suppose.
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Knjaz - 02-16-2012
' Wrote:Alternatively, we could enable collision damage with roids. High mass vs high mass collisions means lots and lots of damage. The non-shield kind. If you want realism that is. But I suspect you're just after making your bigbadbattleship behave much like a fighter does.
Not quite. I learnt myself how to get through roid field without the need to type /stuck too much (or at all), even on Valor in T31.
But those liiiitle asteroids are still damn annoying. And break immersion. As, like, it's harder to get through field that consists of small sized asteroids, then through the one with large-sized ones. And the smaller they are, the more the headache.
But I doubt anything can be done bout this, without increasing server lag =\
EDIT: Forgot to tell. I don't own Ranseur or Legate, and my Mako now holds a huge advantage against them in a dense asteroid field, as any other light bs. (unless it's Kappa or another weird asteroid field).
' Wrote:Please do it.
And what would happen to hessian Jormungad spam then?
Or, more likely, how much ossies, Jormuns, Makos and other small-sized bs'es would need to get nerfed to pay off for their invulnerability against heavy battleships (Turtles, Legates, Nephilims and so on) in asteroid fields ? How will sairs move their Legates out of Omicron Gamma? (although, that can be solved by creating passages through roid fields, but doesn't solve balance problem of big vs small)
And... Full cerberus LibDread will be just :crazy:
Imo, giving balance team more headache then they have by inserting another factor into the game wouldn't be wise:)
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Barbarossa - 02-16-2012
' Wrote:Alternatively, we could enable collision damage with roids. High mass vs high mass collisions means lots and lots of damage. The non-shield kind. If you want realism that is. But I suspect you're just after making your bigbadbattleship behave much like a fighter does.Dude dude dude dude.... What's the so important with the Ranseur then?! Every system surrounding Alpha is a ''roid'' system and that's extremely annoying. Atleast, make a clear way in ''roid'' fields with some buoys so its possible to go thru without a '>:O' face. Get back the old system in disco5 pl0x. I miss when the ''roids'' used to go thru' the ships...
Newsflash. It's not a fighter. It doesn't do well in roid fields. It's not intended to do well in roidfields. Keep them in the lanes, or in asteroid exclusion zones. Capital ship battles are geared towards open space.
[Edit] Or get a nimble destroyer if you're that desperate to do capital ship activity in roidfields. The Storta isn't half bad in terms of maneuvering.
[Edit2]
This is something that could be looked into. Many fields already have this set up - a small clear path 400m wide towards the nearest base. Not hard to do.
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - ryoken - 02-16-2012
' Wrote:Dude dude dude dude.... What's the so important with the Ranseur then?! Every system surrounding Alpha is a ''roid'' system and that's extremely annoying. Atleast, make a clear way in ''roid'' fields with some buoys so its possible to go thru without a '>:O' face. Get back the old system in disco5 pl0x. I miss when the ''roids'' used to go thru' the ships...
Do not buy a Ranseur. There are already to many.
Also seen in another mod where asteroids were destroyable. Even the bad lands. But this also lags the server i heard.
Want a good cap in roids? Get LSC it "rocks"
Ranseur get's easily stuck in asteroid fields. - Anonymous User - 02-16-2012
' Wrote:''Duhh.. take a fighter then'' or ''Don't enter asteroid fields then duuhh''. I want good answers please.Seriously - Dont enter asteroid field.
Its just logical that huger ships got a disadvantage in asteriod fields to smaller vessels.
So its all fine.
There are mods out there where you cant even fly into fields with the smaller BSes.
In my opinion Capitals dont get stuck fast enough.
Mostly the light BSes have totally no problem flyin in (most) Asteroid fields.
Another Solution.
Asteroid field -> fly without cruise.
If your driving in heavy traffic with a hugea** truck you have to be slow as well:P