+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Discovery Development (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Forum: Discovery Mod General Discussion (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=37)
+---- Forum: Discovery Mod Balance (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=31)
+---- Thread: Supernovas! (/showthread.php?tid=8333)
Supernovas! - Clayph - 05-06-2008
Demeter's range upped by 100m.
Added projectile speed information to Auraka.
Lowered Remington's energy consumption to 31500.
Supernovas! - Jinx - 05-06-2008
what you need to think of is - do you want something balanced - or do you want to provide more roleplay.
if RP is the main focus. - we could simply make all faction equipment factionbased + allies in certain cases. - that would surprisingly balance things out a lot.
like the order has the best armour, the best torpedo, the best capital ship turrets. - but ... they are low on numbers and are not the triggerhappy oddity.
if not everyone was looking for the best there is... 99% of the rest of sirius would be happy NOT knowning that there are things like a supernova or armour type 8 or a capital ship mortar. so the low numbers that the order has would really be significant. - an order bomber wing with supernovas would cause havoc, - especially under capship captains that are used to bombers with sunslayers and .. if they are very very well equipped minirazors.
- too bad we are beyond that time that something like that can be enforced. and people just think that a bomber without a 140.000 damage gun is no real bomber ( or at least most people think so ) - aswell as people think that a fighter without armour 8 is no real fighter. - if each faction only used what is technicly possible, ..... a lot of things could be solved.
think of it - the order has the isis and maybe a handful of osiris left, from which most of them would guard their space. - one osiris with order armour and order weapons could actually do what the order is supposed to do. - fight against an overwhelming enemy ( an enemy that thinks that capship armour 3 is the best and that thinks that there are primary and secondary turrets only. i know the order used vanilla torps in the cutscene at the SP start... but think of it. everyone thinks there are only sunslayer torps, and it takes a long time to take down a cruiser. - but then, suddenly, 4 order bombers approach and take out a rheinland cruiser in the first 2 salvos )
don t get me wrong, i like the idea of SNs for everyone... but i think the real looser is the order. - there is no characteristic left to them.. they are a semi tragic heroe, unlawful but yet lawful, - and their big edge over the nomads is dead and gone, as everyone and their uncle has a perfect copy of their technology.
Supernovas! - bluntpencil2001 - 05-06-2008
Also, remember that with the exception of shield busters, shield damage is always one half of hull damage.
Supernovas! - Clayph - 05-06-2008
' Wrote:Also, remember that with the exception of shield busters, shield damage is always one half of hull damage.
I just realised that while .ini editing.. Hull damages will stay I think
Supernovas! - Zeltak - 05-06-2008
Erm what will happen to Xenos and other factions that hasn't got its own SuperNova (I know because of Roleplay reasons...)
I don't know for the other ones but for the Xenos atleast (Since I play as an Xeno) should they use the:
Zoner Antimatter Cannon
Auraka
Hull Damage - 132 000
Shield Damage - 66 000
Range - 2100m
Projectile Speed - 285m/s
Refire Rate - 0.18
Energy Usage - 39 000
Though this may sound biased. But it is not fair for a faction to not be able to use a Supernova. (If the Zoner Antimatter canon is out of the question that is....)
Supernovas! - Clayph - 05-06-2008
The Zoner Antimatter Cannon is the new Supernova that will be available to
everyone..
Instead it's name won't be Supernova but Auraka.
Supernovas! - Zeltak - 05-06-2008
' Wrote:The Zoner Antimatter Cannon is the new Supernova that will be available to
everyone..
Instead it's name won't be Supernova but Auraka.
Ok thank you for answering.
I have another question, well more like a opinion...
I have studied the stats on all the proposed wepons and I do believe somehow the Kusari and the Blood Dragon ones have a rather large advantage.
One reason is that they have alot faster speed and a lot less energy consumption than the other ones but looses some of its damage. However in bomber squadros (say 3 or more) it dosen't really make such of a difference if you have 10-30k less damage. The effeicency will be the same, possibly not to Battleships and High armored cruisers, but the difference there is minimal. We could go and say that all the Novas have different specialities which makes them special in their own way. Still it feels that the Kusari and the Blood Dragon one will have a rather large advantage since their stats encourges diversity in combat. Meaning they are basicly good against any ship class IF they come in group. And with their increased speed and lowered energy they will be extremely good against fighters and other bombers.
// Vincent
Supernovas! - mjolnir - 05-06-2008
You should keep in mind that the Catamarans have the smaller powerplant
48k capacity 2200 recharge....
right now I would take RH bomber with 58k cap, 2800 recharge over the catamaran in any fight against GBs and up.
Speed advantage almost doesn't matter since we are talking really low numbers there (10-15m/s from average).
But it's true that the energy/damage difference could be smaller.. something like 33k energy and corresponding damage.
Supernovas! - Clayph - 05-06-2008
Now. Sternenfaust is finished. At first I wanted to put Rheinland
Gunboat Forward Gun effect there but.. It looked too big..
Look
![[Image: screen525.jpg]](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u246/Daduch/screen525.jpg)
And now tests with Flamecurse turret projectile. Also nice green explosion effect
is added.
![[Image: screen543.jpg]](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u246/Daduch/screen543.jpg)
![[Image: screen544.jpg]](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u246/Daduch/screen544.jpg)
And finally the stats.. (Infocard will be edited later.)
![[Image: screen541.jpg]](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u246/Daduch/screen541.jpg)
EDIT: Made the energy consumption of Blood Dragon and Kusari SN higher.
Supernovas! - Cosmos - 05-06-2008
Hey Clayph this rocks, nice going mate, btw BHG one shouldnt be 145k, never, considering all BH weapons have high refire and less hull etc so keep at 125k anyways this is great hope it gets added!