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Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - wrathkin - 05-12-2008
Using that logic is just not possible in FL. Everything is the wrong size.
I'll concede that they are at least slightly oorp, but:
I think it is wrong to make in-rp policy for oorp reasons. It will cause in-rp reactions and you have no in-rp justification.
Going to bed....
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Guyton - 05-13-2008
....Moving on. Our very interesting routes will take us to the zoners. Those that will be escorting will enjoy this as much as the newcomers first experiencing it, veru dangerous. Going on such routes like the one I am currently talking about will be considered a guild operations when in large groups. Corsairs and Outcasts are asked to seek us out if we are nearby away from home.
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Zelot - 05-13-2008
I will again ask you to move the AFA to at least your unfriendly list if not hostile. First off the Hogosha are in your hostile list, and Samura is unfriendly, for that alone AFA should be at least unfriendly, add to that the proposed policy of disrupting the flow of Military hardware to the Kusari war effort, and your funding and training of the Blood Dragons, along with your work with Kishiro against Samura's interests in Hokkido, make it imposable for AFA to be neutral with GMG. Please change it.
And on your stopping OORP things, where will you be buying your stinger VHF's from, as Kurile is a Smaura base, and Samura is Unfriendly to the GMG? Well I guess that's the ok type of OORP, while the military vehicles are the bad kind of OORP. Or maybe you are just looking for an excuse to make some credits for your faction by having a reason to give people very large fines (more than any pirate would demand.) Half a million to buy Military vehicles on Naha? In RP, when you purchase the Vehicles on Naha, you ARE paying the GMG for them, so how do you justify making a trader pay the same faction twice for purchasing something from them?
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Guyton - 05-13-2008
' Wrote:I will again ask you to move the AFA to at least your unfriendly list if not hostile. First off the Hogosha are in your hostile list, and Samura is unfriendly, for that alone AFA should be at least unfriendly, add to that the proposed policy of disrupting the flow of Military hardware to the Kusari war effort, and your funding and training of the Blood Dragons, along with your work with Kishiro against Samura's interests in Hokkido, make it imposable for AFA to be neutral with GMG. Please change it.
And on your stopping OORP things, where will you be buying your stinger VHF's from, as Kurile is a Smaura base, and Samura is Unfriendly to the GMG? Well I guess that's the ok type of OORP, while the military vehicles are the bad kind of OORP. Or maybe you are just looking for an excuse to make some credits for your faction by having a reason to give people very large fines (more than any pirate would demand.) Half a million to buy Military vehicles on Naha? In RP, when you purchase the Vehicles on Naha, you ARE paying the GMG for them, so how do you justify making a trader pay the same faction twice for purchasing something from them?
Obviously you have made this post without a second thought given into it. Therefore this will be the last time I break all of this down for someone especially yourself. And before you rush into your all knowing knowledge of things I suggest you take time to research these things for as long as we have. Only then will any comment made here make any sense.
1. Military Vehicles and Gas Miner Naha :
Now get real here people and come back to reality with this stuff. How the heck would a gas miner hold military vehicles in the first place? It makes no sense what so ever why GMG would EVEN make military vehicles seeing as they relate more to zoners than any other faction(living on stations). Its just simple no military vehicles should be bought from Gas Miner Naha. If some of you are misreading what the print actually says I suggest you start from the background and work your way down slowly.
-One of our primary professions as GMG is trader. So get your bull out of here with us wanting credits. It doesn't hurt a trader to pay half a million when they will be making 6 million on the profit. We're not pirates in any way shape or form so please do not compare what you do with us. The way I see it the only ones objecting is those that wants an easy profit without going to the hazards of a regular fair trade.
2. Blood Dragons:
To begin with the roleplay with the Blood Dragons is completely secretive. No other faction has even knowledge of the GMG and Blood Dragons. Therefore none can use it as a method to change diplomacy unless both sides openly shows an openly made co-op military strike against a faction. Just to note if this was an open alliance the GMG would be hostile with Kusari, and thus Kusari would not have such a monoply with the H-fuel would it?
3. OORP - Stinger:
Alright let me reach deeper into that thing you call a mind. To begin with the Stinger is a GMG produced ship not a Samura. Ships belonging to different factions which we have noticed tend to be scattered around Sirius. Our Taiiden HF is sold on a Rheinland battleship. So is it oorp for us to go get it because its placement is wrong? NO. Again I will add a small note here, sir. Unless you have been spending months simply putting together "our" proposal. Do not attempt to prove us wrong when we make a case for the public to understand.
4. Unfriendly:
This is perhaps the only thing you have said in your post that has actually related to "making sense". Maybe your post was over looked before or maybe not. Thank you anyways for the tip for the diplomacy list.
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Clayph - 05-13-2008
Umm.. Weren't the Stinger just developed by GMG and the design
sold (for ridiculous price I suppose) to Samura? I am not on my PC right
now, so I can't look at the infocard. Can anyone look at the Stinger infocard?
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Robert.Fitzgerald - 05-13-2008
The Stinger was a GMG/IMG Design, it's just sold on Kurile for some stupid reason.
X8S "Stinger" Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
The Stinger is a new civilian very heavy fighter developed by GMG jointly with Independent Miners Guild. Aerodynamics of this ship allow to use it effectively in thin atmospheres and nebulas. The Stinger is less maneuverable than the Eagle, but has increased armor and significantly improved power array.
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Guyton - 05-13-2008
Yes, there are few ships located around sirius sold at the wrong planet/station. I'm not sure what it is behind it, but the first time I ran into it was with the Taiiden when we started. Obviously a GMG fighter and its sold on the rheinland battleship in Munich. Someone stated it is a bug that causes this to happen.
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Robert.Fitzgerald - 05-13-2008
Don't make me mention Kurile... Anubis with Liberty weapons, on a Samura planet. Woo!
The Stinger is fine, except for its hitbox... But that'll be fixed next version (hopefully with its textures as well).
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - globalplayer-svk - 05-13-2008
just a quick point, (similar to what zelot posted)
i am sure that kusari police and kusari navy can not be neutral. you have hogosha as hostile, and samura and FA as unfriendly. and i am sure, that kusari military will not stay neutral to faction that is hostile to their supporters..
//and ooc question, when for example hogosha fighter meet GMG tagged and ided trader, can fighter kill him without any demand as they are hostile? or FA fighter meet gmg trader.
Gas Miners Guild(GMG) - Guyton - 05-13-2008
' Wrote:just a quick point, (similar to what zelot posted)
i am sure that kusari police and kusari navy can not be neutral. you have hogosha as hostile, and samura and FA as unfriendly. and i am sure, that kusari military will not stay neutral to faction that is hostile to their supporters..
//and ooc question, when for example hogosha fighter meet GMG tagged and ided trader, can fighter kill him without any demand as they are hostile? or FA fighter meet gmg trader.
Ah, yes the political stances are rather odd. We're still alllies to Kishiro the one company that plays an important role with the Kusari government. Along with we are the controllers of most of the H-Fuel transported into Kusari. From time to time KNF has even sent fighters out to assist us against attacks. The H-fuel holds the standards still between both factions.