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what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Teknikal - 06-02-2008
I personally see nothing wrong this the Lane Hackers and IMG are not friends and Magellan is the main Lane Hacker system. Technically while they aren't enemies I know when I played a Hacker character IMG was always red to me and I was attacked by IMG players quite a bit as well so as far as I was concerned they were enemies.
Theres a similar situation between Outcasts and Order while technically not enemies I've been attacked by order players a lot and decided to lump them in the enemies catagory.
I highly doubt any Hacker lands on that freeport one of the few in the game were the rep just doesn't let you and picking a fight with Hackers in Magellan prob isnt the wisest decision.
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - ian - 06-02-2008
' Wrote:I personally see nothing wrong this the Lane Hackers and IMG are not friends and Magellan is the main Lane Hacker system. Technically while they aren't enemies I know when I played a Hacker character IMG was always red to me and I was attacked by IMG players quite a bit as well so as far as I was concerned they were enemies.
Theres a similar situation between Outcasts and Order while technically not enemies I've been attacked by order players a lot and decided to lump them in the enemies catagory.
I highly doubt any Hacker lands on that freeport one of the few in the game were the rep just doesn't let you and picking a fight with Hackers in Magellan prob isnt the wisest decision.
if the Lane Hackers and IMG are not atleast neutral then why the heck are they landing on the freeport to get supplies? since people in the bar of it say that they do and i have seen a couple of lane hackers sitting down drinking. they were probably indy IMG players as for the IMG faction we have hardly been active lately
and you shouldent be attacking people just because of what appears as Red on your screen as Junkers are red to me but i dont go around shooting them all because they are red as i have been attacking Outcasts in various places where IMG are also found such as the Tau's which is also why Lane Hackers are red aswell
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Elvin - 06-02-2008
Maybe something was little suspicious there, atlough I think Phantom will alwas prefer to "help" (spread the destruction) pirates than corporations...
And dont say "No trial" when it is VERY evident this is supposed to be one...only with the names missing.
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Jihadjoe - 06-02-2008
Ok. lets look at this from the perpective of the LH player. You were flaoting around intending to get a bit of piracy done. You drop a tarde lane in order to ctach the transports as they float by... Fair do's.
Then as you go about your business (maybe accidentally catching an IMG npc in your fire, it happens) you get old to stop by an rather large ship. You, as an arrognat and headstrong pirate, decide to carry on doing what you're doing. Knowing that the freeport isn't run by zoners, and that your kind have been frequently attacked by IMG you call in some backup.
Makes sense so far yeh?
Then what should come along but a Phantom battleship... "Holy crap" you think to yourself "Lucky that monstosity is on my side!"
an also like a fly to poo an indy OC dessie appears near the fight.
Lane hacker character sighs and just gets on with it, nothing he can do about the massive overkill on his side now, he decides to try to finish the fight swifty and plants that last SN into you hull, knowing that it will make little difference in the long run whether or not the large IMG ship gets killed.
how about we end this convo now. No one has done anything wrong, I have seen LH being attacked by IMG players. As the LH are allied to the Outcasts, the relations are bound to be a it tense and I doubt that they would have much respect for the IMG authority somehow.
The phantom was doing the right thing, he wasn't called in to the fight by anyone, the OC dessie I doubt was called in and the other lane hackers... well Would you take on a cruiser on your own in a little ship? I don't think so.
Stop this now, the trail has been conducted (even if you said it wasn't one it clearly was) and you have been found to have no case against anyone.
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Cawdor - 06-02-2008
I brought this topic to the place were it really belongs to.
we will see about the rest.
----> diplomatic stuff
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Doom - 06-02-2008
well...i see double standards here...we all complain when bunch of xenos or pirates pirate near planets or bases hostile to them. We always give reasons how "planetary defense" or "police patrols" would kill them...
well same rule applies here...Hacker pirating near IMG base would get shot down...
Hackers: strike one...
Them building a fleet to attack IMG battlecruiser is fine...hostile cap...lets group and tear him apart...i would do the same...
Phantom ship, battleship, well he didn't have anything to do there...Hackers were more then capable of taking down Ian's ship...If he was there then it should be as bystander...why get involved in something like that fight when outcome was very predictable?...
It made fight very short, with out any challenge and with almost no chance to role play with enemies...
Phantoms: strike one
Ian posting that issue here where it could become trial by forums
Ian: strike one...
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as far as mistakes go...in this case it wasn't so bad...worst things have happened...
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - sovereign - 06-02-2008
' Wrote:Phantom ship, battleship, well he didn't have anything to do there...
' Wrote:Note: I WAS THE PHANTOM. IT WAS MY OSIRIS, THE HELLBOUND. Yes, I did kill him... But I had business to do with the Hackers, as I want the HF to start to appreciate the help of the Phantoms and ditch their allies in the AW. Lane Hacker faction is of no help, so far.
I wouldn't call this double standards, please read more carefully. I would, however, call it high time for the [IMG] to make a neutrality deal with the LH, to avoid further conflict and to isolate yourselves from the less-than-ideal amongst your indies.
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Doom - 06-02-2008
' Wrote:I wouldn't call this double standards, please read more carefully. I would, however, call it high time for the [IMG] to make a neutrality deal with the LH, to avoid further conflict and to isolate yourselves from the less-than-ideal amongst your indies.double standards referred at pirating near the hostile base...if others try to move away to pirate why wouldn't them?
as for battleship, my opinion is that it was too much for that fight...fights are always better when opponent has at least slight chance of striking back...
So, maybe Phantoms and Hackers will be friendlier, but as i understand they weren't at that time, and if that was show of good faith, i think Hackers would appreciate it more if help was given in fight against more powerful enemies, when more is on the line.
If i would offer you my help to change a tire on your car even if its not flat, would you take it?:P
EDIT: don't get me wrong, i am last man who will judge what happened, like i said...worst things happened, and this isn't one of them..not even worth of this thread...
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - Virus - 06-03-2008
' Wrote:what system was you in apart from Magellan? because no-way have i ever said that before!
and well
>snip<
Miscommunication. My apologies. I meant to say that I had had that happen to me on indy characters in Magellan previously, and for no apparent reason. I was by no means accusing you.
what kind of RP would this be? excellent good, bad, terrible? - RonG777 - 06-03-2008
Don't mean to hateful or anything, but....
..quit your whining and play the game...
...There.. I said it