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RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Veygaar - 12-13-2012
As a pilot of the Scorpion, I can tell ya it isn't Overpowered at all as of .86... In fact it's downright sucky in combat performance.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Stoat - 12-13-2012
Finally, someone realises the truth behind the supposedly horrifically overpowered Scorpion
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Govedo13 - 12-13-2012
Since the last similar topic I done also some tests.
Nomad ships are quite balanced towards other tech now. Their single overpowered ship is Irra because it moves faster then all other cruisers. Their VHF is joke, the bomber reminds me KNF bomber in handling(quite average) and the LF is not the OP brutal not hittable trollship that it used to be in previous versions,also the Scorp got hitboxed so no more point blank SNACs that move in the ship and out without doing dmg.
The guns on other hand are quite nice, but on the same level of pornvipers,natters, krakens and almost all human 8,33s.
Nomads need to be able to buy nomad cloaks on their stations with a bit better stats then human cloaks that run on liquid cardamine, it is quite doable that way.
In general as known balance hater I must admit that the nomad stuff is ok now, the cruiser is a bit too good but it compensate for the lack of cruiser missiles/motars.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Altaris - 12-13-2012
(12-13-2012, 07:58 PM)Jinx Wrote: vanilla nomads had:
- weapons that used nearly no energy at all - but had a slow projectile speed, low range and low damage
- nomad ships often came with an innate cloak BUT they had rather low hitpoints and .... no shields, actually no mobile nomad object has shields. ( and no, they did not regenerate their hull by any passive means - but they probably did not take radiation damage in the remote systems they appeared the most )
Eh, no?
Nomad Energy Blaster
Hull/Shield Damage: 635/317
Power Usage: 0 (yep, that's right, no energy used)
Refire Rate: 4.0
Range: 699m
Speed: 600 m/s
Nomad Energy Cannon
Hull/Shield Damage: 847/423
Power Usage: 0
Refire Rate: 3.03
Range: 699m
Speed: 600 m/s
Those were the nomad gun stats in vanilla. Not to mention a laser, which had over 1000hull damage.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Hone - 12-14-2012
(12-13-2012, 09:36 PM)Alley Wrote: It's clearly not overpowered, in fact quite the contrary. The Irra is the only decent ship left for the nomads, more specifically it's guns. Nomad cruiser guns on human cruiser should never happen fyi.
However it should be, nomads will always be in lesser numbers than humans that are technically meant to stand together. This is why they effectively are an inexistant threat for everyone. You just see them like "yet another red" not "OH FFFFFFFF NOMADS CALL 911".
Everyone being so anti nomad-guns-on-human-ships, is silly, the Libertonians did precisely that in SP when their commanders got infected.
Also nomads have never been about big doomship huge fleet attack, theyre supposed to be sneaky.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Gentlefood - 12-14-2012
(12-14-2012, 12:21 AM)Hone Wrote: Everyone being so anti nomad-guns-on-human-ships, is silly, the Libertonians did precisely that in SP when their commanders got infected.
Those are called "The Wild".
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Silver - 12-14-2012
.85? Damn, those Scorp guns were like.. death on a rainbow.
.86? Meh.
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RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Knjaz - 12-14-2012
(12-13-2012, 10:46 PM)Govedo13 Wrote: Since the last similar topic I done also some tests.
Nomad ships are quite balanced towards other tech now. Their single overpowered ship is Irra because it moves faster then all other cruisers.
Huh, what? Do Irras have different Thrusting speed on Discovery of Discovery and Disco RP 24/7 ?
Because on Discovery of Discovery, while impulse speed is at 120, Thrusting one is still at 140. No difference whatsoever. Did I do something wrong?
Quote:Nomads need to be able to buy nomad cloaks on their stations with a bit better stats then human cloaks that run on liquid cardamine, it is quite doable that way.
Fully agree on this one.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Unseelie - 12-14-2012
Personally, I loved fighting voids in my vhf in 85 and before.
But I'm a glutton for a beating, and don't agree that everything needs be balanced.
RE: Is it true that Nomad stuff is overpowered? and.... - Jeremy Hunter - 12-14-2012
(12-14-2012, 12:21 AM)Hone Wrote: Also nomads have never been about big doomship huge fleet attack, theyre supposed to be sneaky.
Tell that to Toledo.
Tell that to The Order's 18 year fleet buildup.
Tell that to the Guild Core fleet.
The first try was sneaky.
That failed.
Now, it's sneaky with a bit of overwhelming force.