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RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Hokan - 04-14-2021
This is a good change. Other than the few oversights that will eventually be corrected when the Admins attention is brought to them.
Reversing the seeping puss influence of Houses over more and more of the game space is a welcome change. It means the border and independent worlds will be more like the frontiers that they should be. Encouraging corporate warfare, the use of 3rd parties to do corporate or House dirty work and more.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Kalhmera - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 10:35 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Don't forget that Corsairs and Outcasts still have ZOI in 80-90% of all systems (For outcasts, all of the omicrons, sigmas, taus, Liberty, Kusari, Bretonia, most independent worlds, parts of gallia, etc) unrestricted, with no limitations to what they can do to other players and POBs beyond the generic rules, and can take caps to all of these systems too.
But I can only enforce the law in 8 systems as Liberty.
:^)
+1 to this. I dont understand why Houses get gimped but Outcasts still keep their ability to bring and dock capitals in house space.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Kauket - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 12:15 PM)Kalhmera Wrote:(04-14-2021, 10:35 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Don't forget that Corsairs and Outcasts still have ZOI in 80-90% of all systems (For outcasts, all of the omicrons, sigmas, taus, Liberty, Kusari, Bretonia, most independent worlds, parts of gallia, etc) unrestricted, with no limitations to what they can do to other players and POBs beyond the generic rules, and can take caps to all of these systems too.
But I can only enforce the law in 8 systems as Liberty.
:^)
+1 to this. I dont understand why Houses get gimped but Outcasts still keep their ability to bring and dock capitals in house space.
Did the rule change anything about taking what ship class you can bring?
Also, probably should do something about major unlawfuls having zoi to engage with caps, but there is also the other issue regarding pob sieges becoming impossible past a certain tier since the local factions don't have BS's to deal with them. POBs should be sorted out too if they're going to remove corsair/outcast cap spam, (or at least limit their caps to only goto oc: bret/ku - cor: rh/ku at a maximum distance or something, since that's where their story is invested. )
All in all, aside from the obvious few errors, I think this is nice.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Hokan - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 12:15 PM)Kalhmera Wrote:(04-14-2021, 10:35 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Don't forget that Corsairs and Outcasts still have ZOI in 80-90% of all systems (For outcasts, all of the omicrons, sigmas, taus, Liberty, Kusari, Bretonia, most independent worlds, parts of gallia, etc) unrestricted, with no limitations to what they can do to other players and POBs beyond the generic rules, and can take caps to all of these systems too.
But I can only enforce the law in 8 systems as Liberty.
:^)
+1 to this. I dont understand why Houses get gimped but Outcasts still keep their ability to bring and dock capitals in house space.
Typically, unlawfuls don't need to worry about international relations, international law, nor border disputes.
Liberty should be thankful however, that there are lawfuls that like to log in to shoot them with ships that can contest their own. For gameplay its good, although I sympathise with the absurdity lore-wise of such huge raids.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Kalhmera - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 12:20 PM)Hokan Wrote:(04-14-2021, 12:15 PM)Kalhmera Wrote:(04-14-2021, 10:35 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Don't forget that Corsairs and Outcasts still have ZOI in 80-90% of all systems (For outcasts, all of the omicrons, sigmas, taus, Liberty, Kusari, Bretonia, most independent worlds, parts of gallia, etc) unrestricted, with no limitations to what they can do to other players and POBs beyond the generic rules, and can take caps to all of these systems too.
But I can only enforce the law in 8 systems as Liberty.
:^)
+1 to this. I dont understand why Houses get gimped but Outcasts still keep their ability to bring and dock capitals in house space.
Typically, unlawfuls don't need to worry about international relations, international law, nor border disputes.
Liberty should be thankful however, that there are lawfuls that like to log in to shoot them with ships that can contest their own. For gameplay its good, although I sympathise with the absurdity lore-wise of such huge raids.
Liberty should be thankful? Nah if we want to nerf houses power then Criminals like the outcasts should be kept in check. You cant be biased in this situation. If houses dont have the capability to patrol and enforce laws in it own border systems then Outcasts dont have the capability to send fleets of dreads into Liberty.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Backo - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 12:15 PM)Kalhmera Wrote:(04-14-2021, 10:35 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Don't forget that Corsairs and Outcasts still have ZOI in 80-90% of all systems (For outcasts, all of the omicrons, sigmas, taus, Liberty, Kusari, Bretonia, most independent worlds, parts of gallia, etc) unrestricted, with no limitations to what they can do to other players and POBs beyond the generic rules, and can take caps to all of these systems too.
But I can only enforce the law in 8 systems as Liberty.
:^)
+1 to this. I dont understand why Houses get gimped but Outcasts still keep their ability to bring and dock capitals in house space.
To be honest if it wasn't for POBs requiring you to bring 5+ Battleships in order to siege a base, I'd be the first to petition the team to remove House Space access for Corsair/Outcast ID capital ships. It has done nothing but overshadow the local unlawfuls in such areas. Outcast/Corsair battleships shouldn't be a thing that you see in House Space, but rather something you'd pray you don't see when you're outside of said House Space(s). It would also give the local factions something to offer that the big Outcast/Corsair man can't do. But as things stand the POB man is immune to LR/LH/Xeno/Molly/Unioner/Bundschuh/GC/etc man once it gets a shield and some upgrades and sometimes you can only rely to your big brother allies to remove things.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Miaou - 04-14-2021
The only aspect I take some issue with is the change to where house lawfuls can enforce repercussions. To be specific, the zones where house lawfuls can enforce repercussions of house law breaks that the lawfuls personally witnessed which was the old yellow zones. It is a bit awkward if, say, KNF find GMG shooting Samura in the Sigmas but can't act on it when they witness it personally.
I do enjoy the simplified system, however I feel like that clause should be readded but in a different way. For instance, having laws and repercussions come from personally witnessed events in ID ZoI. Something added below this line, which is currently in the rules;
Quote:House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players, factions, and POBs found breaking House Laws within House Space.
Which currently allows house lawfuls to enforce in house space. Perhaps below it could be;
Quote:House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players and factions found breaking House Laws within ID ZoI only if they are personally there to witness the legal infraction while uncloaked and equipped with a House Military, Police, or Intelligence faction ID.
This would let the borderworlds and independent worlds breath, yet still show the struggle of the houses attempting to expand into them (see systems like Cortez, old Bering, and Husdon as examples). I also left out PoBs from this as well but that can be readded if wanted. It just solves those awkward situations where house lawfuls witness something but can't act on it.
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Lusitano - 04-14-2021
and that now means that Zoners can not dock anymore with transports with more than 3.6 k cargo space, and capital ships on any base, pob or npc, on Pennsylvania, not even on Bethlehem! uauu amazing!!!
well ... at least the pob owners and future pob owners on Cortez are very happy!!
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Lusitano - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 10:12 AM)Krumai Wrote: Uh... isn't this supposed to be a democracy? People need to test their practicality before these changes are let out.
Welcome to a devtatorship!
RE: Admin Feedback Thread - Kauket - 04-14-2021
(04-14-2021, 12:47 PM)Lusitano Wrote:(04-14-2021, 10:12 AM)Krumai Wrote: Uh... isn't this supposed to be a democracy? People need to test their practicality before these changes are let out.
Welcome to a devtatorship!
It's never been a democracy nor will it ever be. Letting people who aren't experienced in giving the ability to make changes isn't good, nor is allowing circles to manipulate the state.