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RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Trogdor - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 01:39 PM)LordVipex Wrote:(02-27-2014, 12:54 PM)Trogdor Wrote: Oh, pardon me. I forgot. You're not -removing- the aforementioned role, just taking it away from all but the most special of the community's snowflakes. My mistake.
Those who have a deep story behind their ship should have nothing to worry about regarding their Nephilims. If you really need the Nephilim, then you request to have it via SRP.
What's stopping the people who don't want to lose their Nephilim from doing it?
The mountain of extra work required?
The frustration of having to do backflips to reclaim something they already put the work into obtaining?
Also, there's the question of "why are the devs doing this at all?"
As far as I can tell, the only reason is "because some members of the community/dev team think Zoners shouldn't have these toys."
Not because of any actual problem going on, such as rampant abuse.
This is apparently enough justification to poop in the cereal of everyone who roleplays a Zoner cap.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Kazinsal - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 10:25 PM)Trogdor Wrote: The mountain of extra work required?SRPs are pretty easy now, if you really want your battleship turrets that badly.
The frustration of having to do backflips to reclaim something they already put the work into obtaining?
Quote:Also, there's the question of "why are the devs doing this at all?"I think I've explained this several times over the past 50 pages.
Quote:As far as I can tell, the only reason is "because some members of the community/dev team think Zoners shouldn't have these toys."I have never seen more incorrect words on my screen attached to your username.
Quote:Not because of any actual problem going on, such as rampant abuse.See: most of my posts about this.
Quote:This is apparently enough justification to poop in the cereal of everyone who roleplays a Zoner cap.Just because you keep thinking what you want to believe doesn't make it true.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Enkidu - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 10:29 PM)Kazinsal Wrote:(02-27-2014, 10:25 PM)Trogdor Wrote: The mountain of extra work required?SRPs are pretty easy now, if you really want your battleship turrets that badly.
The frustration of having to do backflips to reclaim something they already put the work into obtaining?
Quote:Also, there's the question of "why are the devs doing this at all?"I think I've explained this several times over the past 50 pages.
Quote:As far as I can tell, the only reason is "because some members of the community/dev team think Zoners shouldn't have these toys."I have never seen more incorrect words on my screen attached to your username.
Quote:Not because of any actual problem going on, such as rampant abuse.See: most of my posts about this.
Quote:This is apparently enough justification to poop in the cereal of everyone who roleplays a Zoner cap.Just because you keep thinking what you want to believe doesn't make it true.
Kaz, name your sources for what you conclude to be Zoner Roleplay. Link, link, link.
And, if necessary, we will provide counter links and debate over that. Let's be a little more tit for tat here.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Kazinsal - 02-27-2014
The official zoner lore I am working off is that included in the mod itself through a myriad of infocards and rumours.
Player faction lore does not become mod lore until the dev team says "okay" and throws it into the mod itself.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Enkidu - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 10:54 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: The official zoner lore I am working off is that included in the mod itself through a myriad of infocards and rumours.
Player faction lore does not become mod lore until the dev team says "okay" and throws it into the mod itself.
Then… you're saying whatever I argue is irrelevant here, and I should essentially stop as I cannot functionally combat anything?
Damn. Guess I should try to become a story dev then.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Kazinsal - 02-27-2014
The development team's job is not to read everyone's story posts and write the mod based around those.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Enkidu - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 11:08 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: The development team's job is not to read everyone's story posts and write the mod based around those.
Hot damn. Looks like I need a new mod to play.
Edit: So, essentially… The dev's job is not to evolve the in game storyline in parallel to in game and forum lore, but just according to info cards?
Why is that data not in common circulation, and who assumed that's an ept idea?
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Luis - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 11:09 PM)Achille Wrote:(02-27-2014, 11:08 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: The development team's job is not to read everyone's story posts and write the mod based around those.
Hot damn. Looks like I need a new mod to play.
Edit: So, essentially… The dev's job is not to evolve the in game storyline in parallel to in game and forum lore, but just according to info cards?
Why is that data not in common circulation, and who assumed that's an ept idea?
You keep forgetting that the dev's are not getting paid to do this, right?
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Enkidu - 02-27-2014
(02-27-2014, 11:15 PM)Luis Wrote:(02-27-2014, 11:09 PM)Achille Wrote:(02-27-2014, 11:08 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: The development team's job is not to read everyone's story posts and write the mod based around those.
Hot damn. Looks like I need a new mod to play.
Edit: So, essentially… The dev's job is not to evolve the in game storyline in parallel to in game and forum lore, but just according to info cards?
Why is that data not in common circulation, and who assumed that's an ept idea?
You keep forgetting that the dev's are not getting paid to do this, right?
Now where did I insinuate that?
The man-hours required to gather notes on a number of keyword mentions, say, "nephillim" using the search function is less than it takes to write one of the very same midsized Rp posts that they'd be perusing. They don't have to read the whole thing, just skim an odd mean of role-play. If people desire special attention for a skim then they should link it to them.
You also forget the number of developers, and the amount of time spent on Skype debates which could be seriously axed if only a wee bit of forum research was undertaken. It's not the Tasks of Hercules.
RE: Information about upcoming Zoner changes - Kazinsal - 02-27-2014
When the official factions submit lore changes to us, we make that happen.
When no one submits any lore changes, well, we have to make some up ourselves.