(02-20-2014, 02:52 PM)Achille Wrote:

(02-20-2014, 02:43 PM)Spud Wrote: Gotta admit I didn't read the whole first post Tel, and I think most of the people barking at you here just do it because they like to, but there is something in the part that I read that I think should be changed.

Generally, you tend to say that "all the Zoners" were like this, or like that, and they all did this and all decided that, and then they made a really big militia out of all the Zoners militias. Maybe I'm getting some of it wrong, but this is my impression from the part I read.

Fact is a lot of Zoner players and player factions here don't seem to agree with anything you say. It doesn't really matter who is right and who is wrong. Fact is that your declarations and descriptions kind of say that all Zoners units and created the ZA. But in fact, there seem to be more Zoners that have no intention of joining any sort of militia as you describe it.

So, I don't think all Zoners should be pacifists or doormats or hippies or discordians or what ever, I think Zoners can be just as aggressive, paranoid, delusional, greedy, ambitious, megalomaniac, as everyone else in Sirius can.

What I'd advise you to do (out of my own limited perspective) is to not claim to be something that all or even most Zoners would agree on. Instead, make yourself just a small faction of the Zoners, and concentrate on thinking up a story where this faction got the resources to build what ever you want to build. For example make yourself a group of Zoners that originate from Corsairs, Order defectors, Core defectors, house refugees, house fortune seekers, that made great amounts of cash and gained resources by selling nomad artifacts, remains, and technology on the black market, to various sources.

But I guess in truth, you're gonna get yelled at no matter what you do, just because people like yell at people.

Quite. Yes - all of last summer was the backlash of dem' irksome humans not quite equating to empyrean summits of ethical moralism, and we're all whiny infantiles before the incorrigible bastion of those bearing niche perspectives, who possibly did not participate in the occurrence when it occurred, nor has fielded extensive dialogues with every facet concerned, hm?


Zoners can kick arse - there's no particular lore reasons why they shouldn't. However, they are obligated by in game functionality to stick to the restrictions of their ID. Furthering this under (the no doubt restrictive, hackneyed, optional gastric band of) the Discovery 24/7 Server Rules; an unofficial faction based around another faction is expected to pay a certain level of RP dividends towards the official ID holder, and not exercise the contrary by, say, claiming their installations with an infinite supply of Space Marines, and fringe upon those that (rightfully) they should term allies.

A little grey matter hither and thither wouldn't run amiss.


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(02-20-2014, 02:51 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: No imposing intended, this is just an attempt to make sense of the not sense. haters gonna hate. Thanks for the feedback.

We don't hate ZA's existence; ZA promotes faction activity within the Omicrons. Personally, we hate nor detest nothing as per Disco being a virtual environ. Any concern we show is aimed at your lack of concern for direct gameplay consequences, metarisk, power gaming, in game flaming, griefing and Oorp in an InRp environment.

Stop with the asinine and we'll all stop hating. Straight away. It's likely that we could even talk amicably under such a circumstance - and it wouldn't cost you anything.

(02-20-2014, 04:19 PM)kikatsu Wrote: What do you guys plan to do in the game now? Previously (and currently I suppose) you seem really focused on your own bases. I noticed the idea of you defending other zoner stations is in here now, I can't remember if that is new or not, but for the most part the only people that regularly give the zoners trouble are the GRN (or they used to, not sure if that has calmed down or what), so are you going to be in the Taus now or, well I guess I am just curious as to what you want to do with the faction in terms of on server stuff.

(02-20-2014, 07:01 AM)Thyrzul Wrote:

(02-20-2014, 01:03 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: The Zoners were then thrust into conflict on that fateful day when Freeport 7 was destroyed by the Nomads, sending all of Sirius into a war for their lives. This was the Zoners awakening. The Zoners began to use their vast sums of wealth accumulated over hundreds of years to build a fleet comparable to the strongest of the houses. Even with the diplomatic web intact, the Zoners knew that a day would come when it would all come crashing down, and they decided to be ready for that day.

You try to display Zoners as victims to give them a reason to arm themselves this much while it can't be further from the real truth.

Nobody gave a frack about Zoners when FP7 got blown up, all the major forces were occupied with their own conflicts (internal or with eachother; fueled by nomads of course) and the minor ones with the majors, and when they realized it was the nomads all along, they concentrated on them. Freeport 7 got blown up not to piss of Zoners, but because of that tinker toy ending up in the hands of Edison Trent towards the end of Vanilla campaign. If anyone would want to eradicate all Zoners since 800 AS, there would be no Zoners by now.