(07-01-2016, 04:55 PM)Omicega Wrote: I cannot agree more with @Zephyranthes' post above. The same attitude of apathy and constantly sweeping stuff under the rug is exactly the kind of weak-kneed attitude that has allowed problems like these to become almost endemic. Each and every one of you calling for things to be "defused" or otherwise subject to calming measures is a shining example of how people who have nothing meaningful to contribute other than "I don't understand what is going on but I think it is bad" should keep their opinions to themselves.

(07-01-2016, 04:53 PM)Vendetta Wrote: It isn't a matter of being noticed though. The admins see everyone up in arms. The previous approach of aggression and anger prompted their stonewall response, ignoring any and all feedback and complaints coming their way. They're content to sit there and reassure themselves that they did the right thing from how people were treating them. It's wrong, really, but neither side is in the right on how they're behaving.

This needs to be done.

You're very good at picking up the thread at the point where it suits your position most. The "approach of aggression and anger" was in itself prompted by the exact same of arrogant, dismissive stonewall attitude which you're insinuating didn't exist beforehand - people, including myself, have tried time and time again to approach the staff in reasonable, polite, and open methods only to be met with contempt, sarcasm, and a general denial that anything is wrong in the first place.

(07-01-2016, 05:15 PM)Durandal Wrote: Please keep this on topic, @Ninja This thread is not about Omicega.

(07-01-2016, 05:20 PM)Omicega Wrote:

(07-01-2016, 05:12 PM)Ninja Wrote: Can you give any examples and evidence of your reasonable polite attempts to point out possible improvements?

No. My post history is there for you to trawl through if you want. It shouldn't be too hard to find.

(07-01-2016, 04:17 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Understandable.
Creativity cannot thrive in a toxic environment of mistrust and the prospect of the Disco project going to hell.

(07-01-2016, 06:30 PM)Croft Wrote: May I ask why these six people deserve to forgo the usual system e.g. Appeal after the 6 month period? Evidence has never been provided to the community regarding any bans, only those who are punished/faction leader (I guess 2iC in a leaders case) may view said evidence.

What is being demanded here is a special treatment and a clear undermining of the ruleset, has this been considered by the striking party?

(07-01-2016, 06:32 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: @Croft: Look at the Appeal section.
Faction leaders of the sanctioned players are requesting the material.
And they have a right to do it.

(07-01-2016, 06:42 PM)sindroms Wrote: So what you are doing now is making Disco even more dysfunctional and unstable by throwing literally all of the other members, even those who aren't a part of the forums or the ongoing drama even, under a bus so that you can express yourself?

Is that the point of a dev?
Yes the current situation is spiraling out of control and it will probably will end up with either side tugging on @Igiss to see who is in the right, but I would suggest that at least the dev side of things remain sain for the time being.