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RE: Re: Furries - Divine - 01-31-2017

Hey Toris, I forwarded your PM to @sindroms
Stating that you just insist on Furries because at some point some people to some degree clashed with your other chars, isn't the most clever thing to do.


RE: Re: Furries - Tunicle - 01-31-2017

http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(16)31752-4


RE: Re: Furries - Divine - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 02:42 PM)Tunicle Wrote: http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(16)31752-4
This works with genetically equivalent species. It won't merge a human with a dog.


RE: Re: Furries - PRJKTLRD - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 02:01 PM)Vendetta Wrote: There should honestly be a comprehensive breakdown as to why the fandom does not fit in the lore of Discovery Freelancer, so I'm going to roughly summarize it as it's not even 8 AM when I started writing this.

The idea of animal-anthropomorphic beings/furry fandom in a society based on an alternate timeline, over a nine hundred years in the future in a different part of the sector is silly. When you examine the extended intro of the vanilla game, as well as the lore listed in the vanilla + extended lore added by Discovery, there is surprisingly little mentioned about agriculture relating to animals. In fact, the only real mention of Sol-Based life beyond humans is fish, which were put in to the oceans of various worlds in order to sustain an edible food source. Looking at the extended intro, Sol was utterly decimated by the Nomads, quite literally wiping out planet Earth. One might argue: "Oh, but it's the future, surely they had colonies on Mars."

They did.

But they weren't terraformed.

A particular scene of the intro shows marines in space, battling it out on the red planet with zero gravity or life of any kind surrounding them. The planet was still a desolate, lifeless rock. The idea that animals in any sense would've left Earth outside of being processed for consumption is up for debate, especially when considering that it was a time of war, and food rations were a must for both sides. You then get to the final scene, where the five sleeper ships take off from one of Jupiter's moons, full of people - especially the Hispania. In fact, the Hispania was overpopulated in the lore. It never successfully survived the journey beyond the founding of the Maltese and Cretan nations.

Second hole - The People of The Alliance were fleeing for their very lives. Their existence depended on them escaping with what they had loaded on to the ships - people. I seriously doubt that they'd have gone out of their way to make the Sleeper Ships in to giant Noah's Arc-style vessels, when their goal was to survive the onslaught of the Coalition. Not to mention - They're on an atmosphereless moon. As I mentioned before, there was no terraforming done on Mars. There wouldn't have been any on this moon, either. It wouldn't have been able to sustain human life outside of the sealed and shielded bases that were built, let alone animal life. The absolute very least of their concerns was if their pets were going to survive, as proven by mankind's instinctual ability to sacrifice things they love in order to preserve life. For example - If a predatory bear approached you and your dog with the intent of killing you, you would 100% of the time send the dog at the bear and run, because every single instance of fighting a bear in history has gone exactly how you'd think it would go.

Naturally though, Humanity would factor in and did factor in the possibility of there being no sustainable food source at their destination. The lack of terraforming made them have to pick and choose which worlds they needed to colonize. Earth-like worlds that can sustain life. The most common and easy to carry source of food is seeds for farming. Fish eggs could be preserved for the entirety of the journey, as we can all assume the trip from Sol to Sirius was not instantaneous, otherwise the point of cryogenic sleep would've been a redundancy, and if the Coalition cared enough to wipe out the alliance - factoring in the existence of instant-jump technology - they'd have probably gone after those ships. So, they reach Sirius and begin anew, seeding the water with fish in the hopes they'll be able to survive, beginning to farm and investigate the never-specified new life on the various worlds. Society would begin to grow around survival. For the longest time there would be little to no media, fiction or entertainment of any kind that would reference animals.

I could go way more in to detail about how unimportant it would be for the people of this day and age to want to involve themselves with animals, let alone waste time and effort in developing hybrids from long-dead species. The fandom its self wouldn't have been imagined or exist in society this day in 824 A.S.

Couldn't agree with this more. Exactly what you need to know.


RE: Re: Furries - DragonRider - 01-31-2017

This opinion will be from that of an outsider looking in, as I've haven't looked into this topic that much.

With that said, I am with you @Sinh .

@SMI-Great.Fox 's character is a well written one. The thing is people let their own opinions and judgement get above their character's RP. What I am saying is if someone dislikes furries , chances are they wouldn't like to RP with Cody Faulkner. Even if their character has no formed opinion on furries. I admit it, I personally do not like the furry fandom. Not to say I hate it or want to see them burn in hell. I'm just not a fan. But I wouldn't mind RPing with one if it's well formulated. Why should they deserve anything worse? What have they done to me? More so in this case the author has taken the initiative to write a detailed story of how his character came to be. So it's not like "I like wolves so I will RP a man-wolf for no reason! Look everybody! I'm a wolf!".

However this is where I lean towards the other side of the argument...

The main reason why I like Discovery (and Freelancer, for that matter) is because it's a fairly unique twist to the "Future humans in space!" genre.
It portraits the human race deeply involved with politics, faction and constant power struggles. The humans of Sirius arent' a single faction fighting the evil aliens and exploring the galaxy. It's so much "down to earth" and... realistic even. I can see why players want to keep Discovery this way and avoid unusual things. Such as "furries".


RE: Re: Furries - TheShooter36 - 01-31-2017

One of the usual pointless threads of disco.

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I should add a serious note here: Furries are banned for a reason, a rightful reason that is they break the immersion and doesnt fit the setting of discovery, we are not a goddamn fantasy RPG.


RE: Re: Furries - Backo - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 01:53 PM)Sinh Wrote: Edit: This thing is rather in defence of @SMI-Great.Fox and his roleplay, because he is the actual person who lost 7 years of hard work.

If his characters solely resolved around the fact they are furries then the RP wasn't all that good and was simply playing a furry for the sake of being furry.

Now my actual gripe with furry RP is that furry roleplayers want other characters in space to accept and even like their characters. But humans don't work like that, we shun difference, we shun disfigurements and so on. If furries hid from humans, kept to their own, didn't show their difference I would've been okay with it all but instead furries shoveled their furriness everywhere and expected every Sirian to respect them as if they're human. Newsflash Freelancer universe is filled with people who are bigoted and hate those who are different.


RE: Re: Furries - Vendetta - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 03:24 PM)DragonRider Wrote: @SMI-Great.Fox 's character is a well written one. The thing is people let their own opinions and judgement get above their character's RP. What I am saying is if someone dislikes furries , chances are they wouldn't like to RP with Cody Faulkner. Even if their character has no formed opinion on furries. I admit it, I personally do not like the furry fandom. Not to say I hate it or want to see them burn in hell. I'm just not a fan. But I wouldn't mind RPing with one if it's well formulated. Why should they deserve anything worse? What have they done to me? More so in this case the author has taken the initiative to write a detailed story of how his character came to be. So it's not like "I like wolves so I will RP a man-wolf for no reason! Look everybody! I'm a wolf!".

I can understand the sentiment of someone's hard work going to waste. Seven years is a long time for anyone to put in to their character, and mine only has a maximum of six, and I'd be devastated if I were to lose all of that work I've personally put in to mine. I'd probably leave, to be completely honest. People might argue that it's a game, and they have - But that much time and work gone in to something someone is passionate about is a hard loss to cope with.

Unfortunately I'm still of the mind that anthropomorphic characters do not fit Discovery. If it was a major part of his roleplay, then that's unfortunate, and I could imagine it would be tough to do - but wouldn't it be easier to save all that work by retracing it all and editing it to fit with the changes? I know it defeats the purpose, but there's is no chance they'll appeal the rule, and I'd rather they didn't.


RE: Re: Furries - Vendetta - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 03:41 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: If his characters solely resolved around the fact they are furries then the RP wasn't all that good and was simply playing a furry for the sake of being furry.

Now my actual gripe with furry RP is that furry roleplayers want other characters in space to accept and even like their characters. But humans don't work like that, we shun difference, we shun disfigurements and so on. If furries hid from humans, kept to their own, didn't show their difference I would've been okay with it all but instead furries shoveled their furriness everywhere and expected every Sirian to respect them as if they're human. Newsflash Freelancer universe is filled with people who are bigoted and hate those who are different.

This too. Sirius is full of bias and bigotry. The faction I lead makes a habit of considering themselves superior to others. How well received would someone claiming or acting to be a hybrid animal-human species be? Probably not very well. People are already very opposed to the Maltese and Corsairs existing as a race.


RE: Re: Furries - DragonRider - 01-31-2017

(01-31-2017, 03:45 PM)Vendetta Wrote: anthropomorphic characters do not fit Discovery.

That is why I am conflicted.