(10-30-2017, 06:44 PM)Laz Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 06:42 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 06:36 PM)~ZeCorsair~ Wrote: Maybe an Ishtar as an event price ship would be funny for indies maybe as an reward in a storyline event in the omicrons. Would totally like to fly one of those smexy ship. But should stay rare as possible so maybe only as an RP price or you have to do crazy srp conditions

You can SRP anything already. Apart from that, we already had the Ish'tar as Titan available.

Omicron had the honor to play the Sathanas, an Ish'tar with 64x Armor.

Pretty sure that was a regular Marduk.

(10-30-2017, 06:48 PM)Karlotta Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 06:33 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: As I told you, have that in Dublin if you enjoy zero-RP-encounters. Don't you dare to turn a faction you don't play into dyslexic terrorists.

Try to understand what I'm saying instead of just looking for things to post against it.

Nomads are already dyslexic terrorists. In fact, they should be, via lore. But if you want to RP them as something else, I never said that you shouldnt be allowed to do that.

Humans in Dublin, how ever, shouldn't be dyslexic terrorists, not via lore, and not via rules.

I dont WANT zero-RP-encounters in Dublin, because 1: They're against the rules 2: They break immersion, if a human that should be able to talk cant talk 3: These 2 things make them annoying.

But these things arent the case if nomads were allowed to engage without typing-RP.

(10-30-2017, 05:46 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: - It takes away one of the good reasons to join either K'Hara or Vagrants. For the Vagrants, we have a solid and transparent requirement to ensure people have to earn their Marduk. This also guarantees the person who managed to get the Marduk put up enough effort to both play it adequately and did enough interactions both on forum and ingame to really earn it.

- The Marduk has a very special role within the Nomad Mindshare. The last thing I want to see is people using it to lolwut around. I saw it in K'Hara already and it was terrible, and we all know Noobs will go for the most tanky and biggest battleship they can get. We all know the kind of people who play Nephilims or Ranseurs. They engage without RP, they don't know what RP is, they aren't interested in RP. Look at the people who bring Ranseurs to Liberty. They are absolutely not interested in RP, they just want to fight using the most tanky ship they can get. I really rather have only three good people knowing how to play the Marduk instead of 30 people who cause me to borderline 1.2 when describing them. We have enough of those people on Order/Outcast/Zoner battleships entering the Nomicrons already. Those people are only interested in Battleships for the sake of Battleships. They name their ships YVAN_LE_TERRIBLE, Cheesecake, Smith, TERMINATOR007, BRUTAL_OUTCAST and all that trash. You'll never have that problem with the Irra or cruisers/battlecruisers of any faction, although the increase of lolwut CPWs should be the best proof of how this should NEVER be done with Marduks, even if that means we'll never get the Ish'tar. If people want to prove they can handle a Marduk, they shall try to SRP one or join the Nomad factions. That at least brings some QA over those.

(10-30-2017, 06:49 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 06:48 PM)Karlotta Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 06:33 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: As I told you, have that in Dublin if you enjoy zero-RP-encounters. Don't you dare to turn a faction you don't play into dyslexic terrorists.

Try to understand what I'm saying instead of just looking for things to post against it.

Nomads are already dyslexic terrorists. In fact, they should be, via lore. But if you want to RP them as something else, I never said that you shouldnt be allowed to do that.

Humans in Dublin, how ever, shouldn't be dyslexic terrorists, not via lore, and not via rules.

I dont WANT zero-RP-encounters in Dublin, because 1: They're against the rules 2: They break immersion, if a human that should be able to talk cant talk 3: These 2 things make them annoying.

But these things arent the case if nomads were allowed to engage without typing-RP.

They are not dyslexic terrorists. That's what you want them to be. Big difference.

(10-30-2017, 06:49 PM)Chronicron Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 05:46 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: - It takes away one of the good reasons to join either K'Hara or Vagrants. For the Vagrants, we have a solid and transparent requirement to ensure people have to earn their Marduk. This also guarantees the person who managed to get the Marduk put up enough effort to both play it adequately and did enough interactions both on forum and ingame to really earn it.

- The Marduk has a very special role within the Nomad Mindshare. The last thing I want to see is people using it to lolwut around. I saw it in K'Hara already and it was terrible, and we all know Noobs will go for the most tanky and biggest battleship they can get. We all know the kind of people who play Nephilims or Ranseurs. They engage without RP, they don't know what RP is, they aren't interested in RP. Look at the people who bring Ranseurs to Liberty. They are absolutely not interested in RP, they just want to fight using the most tanky ship they can get. I really rather have only three good people knowing how to play the Marduk instead of 30 people who cause me to borderline 1.2 when describing them. We have enough of those people on Order/Outcast/Zoner battleships entering the Nomicrons already. Those people are only interested in Battleships for the sake of Battleships. They name their ships YVAN_LE_TERRIBLE, Cheesecake, Smith, TERMINATOR007, BRUTAL_OUTCAST and all that trash. You'll never have that problem with the Irra or cruisers/battlecruisers of any faction, although the increase of lolwut CPWs should be the best proof of how this should NEVER be done with Marduks, even if that means we'll never get the Ish'tar. If people want to prove they can handle a Marduk, they shall try to SRP one or join the Nomad factions. That at least brings some QA over those.

And you wonder why people don't join your factions? Have at you. And it's not about lowering requirements. But yet again - what's the point of even typing something if you don't even do anything about your own faction concepts.

Just to clear this up, it's not about Vagrants, but also about K'Haras. On the side of Vagrants, you either have to be an RP nerd or a guy with a good community rep to join the faction. But what kind of RP context your bloody faction has? Everything your evolution system is based on is grinding blues or either sitting on the side as weirdo watching how people kill eachother. You basically don't do any RP at ALL. The only RP you perform is Message Dumps and Consensuses. And with such demands, don't you think that there will be troubles within Nomad Playerbase?

Same story goes to K'Hara. I've spent about 2 months in trial mode and it went not as enjoyable, but I personslly learned a lot of stuff back then. One of those things was is that I carry a history of a facrion, thst was created by a lot of people for a lot of years and that my goal is not screw it up as a newest member of this faction. Something that is called "responsibility". But responsible for what? After Huggie came, the entire Nomlore got overnuked and K'Haras turned into a meme-faction, showing no respect neither to previous nomlore, nor to anyone else.

And here's the answer why people stop caring about role-playing. Same with newbies - they do what masters do. They see that roleplaying in nomad community is complicated and shooting things is way more fun, not speaking about gaming communuty in general.

Operator Wrote:And you wonder why people don't join your factions? Have at you. And it's not about lowering requirements. But yet again - what's the point of even typing something if you don't even do anything about your own faction concepts.

Just to clear this up, it's not about Vagrants, but also about K'Haras. On the side of Vagrants, you either have to be an RP nerd or a guy with a good community rep to join the faction. But what kind of RP context your bloody faction has? Everything your evolution system is based on is grinding blues or either sitting on the side as weirdo watching how people kill eachother. You basically don't do any RP at ALL. The only RP you perform is Message Dumps and Consensuses. And with such demands, don't you think that there will be troubles within Nomad Playerbase?

(10-30-2017, 06:59 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: We don't have a problem with our recruitment. In fact, we have a clear cut between people who just want to shjote stuff (Lesser Vagrants) and people who actively want to evolve their characters (normal Vagrants). The problem is not with the faction concepts, the trials or anything. The problem is that Nammu and Irra have been incredibly painful to use. This is now solved, now that we are very close to have useful Nomad Gunboats and the cool new Irra available, as well as Nomad weaponry. When you're not too busy seeing problems where they aren't, you can thank @Titan, @Karst, @"Erzie" and @Foxglove for finally making all that possible.

Apart from that, you make some weird claims about how we RP that aren't true. Yes, you grind blues every now and then - because that is what you are very likely to do ANYWAY when you log a nomad ship. I don't know what your problem is, but logging a Nomad is almost always resulting in yourself getting blued or someone else. I made advantage of that kind of gameplay by making it part of the evolution process. Even when you get killed, you get a point, which encourages you to allow the enemy to kill you instead of sundiving/planetdiving or docking just to deny blues. The evolution points are pretty much just evidence that you log at all. How you grind them is up to you. RP however is an essential part of the Vagrant gameplay, and you know you're lying when you say all we do is watching other people die without much RP. You're pissed, but don't blame us for it.


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Apart from that, it's speaking for yourself to try backstab us here instead of ever talking to Foxglove or me about anything. Instead we see your char magically reappearing ingame without any word after you left the Vagrants saying you quit discovery.