(02-23-2018, 08:44 PM)Tænì Wrote:

(02-23-2018, 08:40 PM)"Jade Fire Wrote: I highly doubt the K'Vosh would have left any information laying around that was this secret and well kept, never the less to a bunch of machines. Did you even ask Liberty officials if you could use Valhalla 1 in your RP or no?

"A bunch of machines" isn't even our lore.


They'd be vaguely aware of the location of ambiguous K'vosh sites. There needs to be some kind of trace for events to happen and there to be faction objectives. I agree that calling it "Valhalla 1" needs to be excised but the intention was to avoid creating another vague AI faction without purpose and objective.

Also it's secret to humans. Whose to say what the K'vosh objectives were for the Gammu? That's our lore to craft.

(02-23-2018, 08:46 PM)"Jade Fire Wrote: So you didn't even ask the Nomad leaders if this was alright (having just seen Vendetta's post)? I mean, there's a thing called asking before proceeding (Something I learned the extremely hard way) and this is one of them. Secret projects are meant to be that, a secret, and you need to ask before using them

(02-23-2018, 08:53 PM)"Jade Fire Wrote: Okay but you see, the difference here is, if I did that, I would not be using information the UN| calls secret now would I? See what were getting at now? So why would you have access to information another faction has as secret? If this is true what you are saying, that means that anyone can game that they know UN|'s deepest secrets just because they can.

(02-24-2018, 03:43 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: @Vendetta Well, it seems Nomads hadn't been into this position forever. In regards of this. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=153292

Mind to explain me the RP decision basing on this? Either way it seems the K'hara HC just seem to disregard our RP. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a reaction resulting of me leading it. However as silly as this move is. I might remind you that forcing RP on other entities is forbidden. If K'hara still uses to shoot us for whatever reason, we won't shoot back. Have fun in finding a RP justification in shooting a metal shell.

(02-24-2018, 04:05 AM)Vendetta Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 03:43 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: @Vendetta Well, it seems Nomads hadn't been into this position forever. In regards of this. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=153292

Mind to explain me the RP decision basing on this? Either way it seems the K'hara HC just seem to disregard our RP. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a reaction resulting of me leading it. However as silly as this move is. I might remind you that forcing RP on other entities is forbidden. If K'hara still uses to shoot us for whatever reason, we won't shoot back. Have fun in finding a RP justification in shooting a metal shell.

Maybe he didn't make it clear enough. "Not ruling out the possibility" is a kind way of saying we honestly don't care. It's not about who the faction is led by, but rather the fact that there's a variety of reasons we cannot be friends.

One: Communications barrier. We can't communicate directly.
Two: Existing hostilities. The Nomads are biological weapons. We exist to kill things, and we do not give second chances.
Three: See above. It'd make zero sense for a machine race to suddenly evaluate a frequently hostile species as non-hostile if the same can't be done to neutral/non-hostile elements inside other factions. It's literally a full 180-turn from where the relationship was before and that just doesn't happen. You're also painting an even bigger target on your back by frequently going around trying to shoot stuff on our behalf.
Four: You're in the Omicrons. We don't want anyone there. That includes people who have the same idea of wanting people out. It kind of defeats the purpose to want everyone out but not everyone at the same time.
Five: You have nothing to offer us. We don't care about trade. We don't need additional guns pointing at our enemies. We can't use your tech and vice versa. There is nothing to gain in forming a relationship.

"Forcing RP" is a laughable attempt to try and turn this into something personal. If anything, your frequent attempts to appease us have been nothing but forced. It should've been made perfectly clear that we do not want to be allies.

(02-24-2018, 04:17 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 04:05 AM)Vendetta Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 03:43 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: @Vendetta Well, it seems Nomads hadn't been into this position forever. In regards of this. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=153292

Mind to explain me the RP decision basing on this? Either way it seems the K'hara HC just seem to disregard our RP. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a reaction resulting of me leading it. However as silly as this move is. I might remind you that forcing RP on other entities is forbidden. If K'hara still uses to shoot us for whatever reason, we won't shoot back. Have fun in finding a RP justification in shooting a metal shell.

Maybe he didn't make it clear enough. "Not ruling out the possibility" is a kind way of saying we honestly don't care. It's not about who the faction is led by, but rather the fact that there's a variety of reasons we cannot be friends.

One: Communications barrier. We can't communicate directly.
Two: Existing hostilities. The Nomads are biological weapons. We exist to kill things, and we do not give second chances.
Three: See above. It'd make zero sense for a machine race to suddenly evaluate a frequently hostile species as non-hostile if the same can't be done to neutral/non-hostile elements inside other factions. It's literally a full 180-turn from where the relationship was before and that just doesn't happen. You're also painting an even bigger target on your back by frequently going around trying to shoot stuff on our behalf.
Four: You're in the Omicrons. We don't want anyone there. That includes people who have the same idea of wanting people out. It kind of defeats the purpose to want everyone out but not everyone at the same time.
Five: You have nothing to offer us. We don't care about trade. We don't need additional guns pointing at our enemies. We can't use your tech and vice versa. There is nothing to gain in forming a relationship.

"Forcing RP" is a laughable attempt to try and turn this into something personal. If anything, your frequent attempts to appease us have been nothing but forced. It should've been made perfectly clear that we do not want to be allies.

So, what was the intention/mind behind the content of the link in my previous post? I may get into your points on a later post, but for now saying the Nomads are just a biological weapon drives me clapping hands and shaking head.

(02-24-2018, 04:21 AM)Vendetta Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 04:17 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 04:05 AM)Vendetta Wrote:

(02-24-2018, 03:43 AM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: @Vendetta Well, it seems Nomads hadn't been into this position forever. In regards of this. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=153292

Mind to explain me the RP decision basing on this? Either way it seems the K'hara HC just seem to disregard our RP. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a reaction resulting of me leading it. However as silly as this move is. I might remind you that forcing RP on other entities is forbidden. If K'hara still uses to shoot us for whatever reason, we won't shoot back. Have fun in finding a RP justification in shooting a metal shell.

Maybe he didn't make it clear enough. "Not ruling out the possibility" is a kind way of saying we honestly don't care. It's not about who the faction is led by, but rather the fact that there's a variety of reasons we cannot be friends.

One: Communications barrier. We can't communicate directly.
Two: Existing hostilities. The Nomads are biological weapons. We exist to kill things, and we do not give second chances.
Three: See above. It'd make zero sense for a machine race to suddenly evaluate a frequently hostile species as non-hostile if the same can't be done to neutral/non-hostile elements inside other factions. It's literally a full 180-turn from where the relationship was before and that just doesn't happen. You're also painting an even bigger target on your back by frequently going around trying to shoot stuff on our behalf.
Four: You're in the Omicrons. We don't want anyone there. That includes people who have the same idea of wanting people out. It kind of defeats the purpose to want everyone out but not everyone at the same time.
Five: You have nothing to offer us. We don't care about trade. We don't need additional guns pointing at our enemies. We can't use your tech and vice versa. There is nothing to gain in forming a relationship.

"Forcing RP" is a laughable attempt to try and turn this into something personal. If anything, your frequent attempts to appease us have been nothing but forced. It should've been made perfectly clear that we do not want to be allies.

So, what was the intention/mind behind the content of the link in my previous post? I may get into your points on a later post, but for now saying the Nomads are just a biological weapon drives me clapping hands and shaking head.

The contact between your group and the Oracles was actually brought to the attention of the chat and not something that was sent out to be done. When they poked us for a verdict and decision about a relationship, the active voices voted against it. It was pretty clear that interest was superseded by logic in this case as points were brought up that made any kind of relationship virtually an impossibility.

People don't just make a 180-turn and start being friends. I highly doubt the Nomads OR AI would do the same. That's honestly all the reasoning you need, and if that isn't clear enough for you, then don't act surprised if you end up getting shot during a raid like everybody else.

(09-01-2017, 04:51 PM)HanCloudstone Wrote: Incoming transmission
Source: Oracle|Israfel
Location: Omicron Delta
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Peace to you.

I represent the Oracles, a group of people inclined towards establishing peace between Nomads and peoples of Sirius sector. I have promising news for you.
Our benefactors, the K'Hara, are interested in signing a non-aggression pact with Gammuians. This pact obviously extends not only to Nomads themselves, as well as to our own organization, the Oracles.
Unfortunately, I cannot speak for the entities known as Nomad Vagrants. K'Hara don't have any form of direct control over them and cannot take responsibility for their actions.
It also means that if they will not accept the terms of agreement, they will not get any support from K'Hara in any future conflict with Gammuian AIs....

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