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Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - darthbeck - 05-24-2009
this could work.
(i would say something more, but i have about 5 minutes of battery left.)
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - ryuka.shinigami - 05-24-2009
I'm glad to see my idea help and that now we have a poll.
Thank you so much!
Congratz!
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - tazuras - 05-24-2009
' Wrote:Hey look over here at me.
What exactly is the problem with posting stuff there? I really don't see anything wrong with the system in place where people can work on becoming official by posting in that thread and receiving feedback that way. I mean, the search function works, people, and if I search RSS or BTA, that thread will come up....
First of all, that thread hasnt been updated in more then four months, I would call that a problem. Second of all, it is not indexed. And If you think that can be solved by searching then think again, you cant search for a string with any less than 4 characters, and some of the tags have less than 4 characters.
First to make the thread work in general it needs to be updated. Second, to make it so people can actually find something links have to be made in the first post or the faction posts must conform to standard that says:
Quote:your post will include the following in this format:This way it will be both search able and useful. Although it will still not be very useful for getting feedback on a faction request, and I don't really think feedback should cost 500,000,000 credits.
- Faction Tag:
- Faction Name:
- Leader Forum Name:
- Description:
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - n00bl3t - 05-24-2009
Voted appropriately.
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - Blackstarr - 05-24-2009
Yes yes and yes. Just because a faction is unofficial doesnt mean that they shouldnt have the right to let people know that they exist, to let people know what they do, who they are, ect ect ect.
' Wrote:http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29651
How about THIS thread, since it's for the unofficial factions? It's the sub-thread for ... wait for it...
UNOFFICIAL FACTIONS
Yes.. but see above. No place to put info, what they are, what they do, ect ect ect.
' Wrote:The only real official faction is [Admin].
The rest are allowed factions or just damned lucky.
But seriously, before you start a faction, try looking into other ones that might fit your RP.
Oh really... So you deny everyone the right to be able to make their own rp... to make Discovery grow, to make their faction unique, ... there are tons of NPC factions that have no PF to back them up. Yet every time someone tries to fill taht gap, it gets locked by admins... what a shame.
And about all the complains about the admins and their money issue, my opinion of the admins can be seen in my sig. Nuf said.
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - Reverend Del - 05-24-2009
And what exactly is the blessed point? We'll end up knee deep in unofficial factions ignoring official faction RP. Oh wait that's pretty much happening now. What would be nice is if folks actually joined up with the official factions and devoted time to those. Instead what we are seeing are folks too eager to lead unofficial factions which place their own RP above and beyond the RP of anyone else to the point of completely ignoring any other faction that may exist alongside their own.
Sorry to say but Discovery is built upon the work of official factions, they've put the time and effort into creating the story and immersive atmosphere for which Discovery should rightly be proud.
Unofficial factions are exactly that and frankly if unofficial factions want any of the benefits of official factions they should stump up the cash and run the gauntlet of the Faction Creation Requests forum.
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - tazuras - 05-24-2009
' Wrote:And what exactly is the blessed point? We'll end up knee deep in unofficial factions ignoring official faction RP. Oh wait that's pretty much happening now. What would be nice is if folks actually joined up with the official factions and devoted time to those. Instead what we are seeing are folks too eager to lead unofficial factions which place their own RP above and beyond the RP of anyone else to the point of completely ignoring any other faction that may exist alongside their own.
Sorry to say but Discovery is built upon the work of official factions, they've put the time and effort into creating the story and immersive atmosphere for which Discovery should rightly be proud.
Unofficial factions are exactly that and frankly if unofficial factions want any of the benefits of official factions they should stump up the cash and run the gauntlet of the Faction Creation Requests forum.
After having discussed this issue a good deal recently I'm going to have to say I mostly agree with Del. Unofficial faction should be able to make their presence known and a short description, but that's pretty much it. Although to do this the unofficial faction thread needs to be updated a little more frequently and needs a little more structure.
I still think there should be a way to get peer review before paying 500 million though. Perhaps a down payment on the 500 mill, guaranteeing a factions intent to become official, maybe 300 mill or so. This would weed out people waving their arms with some of these posts and saying "Hey looks, come join me" and still allow people a second round of review so they can get their faction request as polished as possible before the final submission.
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - AJBeast - 05-24-2009
' Wrote:And what exactly is the blessed point? We'll end up knee deep in unofficial factions ignoring official faction RP. Oh wait that's pretty much happening now. What would be nice is if folks actually joined up with the official factions and devoted time to those. Instead what we are seeing are folks too eager to lead unofficial factions which place their own RP above and beyond the RP of anyone else to the point of completely ignoring any other faction that may exist alongside their own.
Sorry to say but Discovery is built upon the work of official factions, they've put the time and effort into creating the story and immersive atmosphere for which Discovery should rightly be proud.
Unofficial factions are exactly that and frankly if unofficial factions want any of the benefits of official factions they should stump up the cash and run the gauntlet of the Faction Creation Requests forum.
Im sorry , but arent you beeing a litle discriminatory there ? I mean , just cause a faction is unofficial doesnt mean they are a bunch of lolwutters flying around crushing others RP. What seperates the officials from the unofficals anyways , a large amount of cash ? "If you want to be official , you will have to grind THIS much". Seems like a real bloody nice sistem dont you think ?
Anyways , i voted yes, since unofficial requests are getting shot down like ducks in a shooting range. Another thing i think could be implemented instead of this would be to pin all official factions posts ( message dumps , faction recruitment, faction info , etc). That way anyone checking existing factions out would get to see the official ones first.
PS: Sorry for the litle outburst there , but im sick of seeing non-official factions members and indies getting trampled on.
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - ryuka.shinigami - 05-24-2009
@AJBeast -- *makes a large banner and hangs it in the hallway of my dorms*
AJBeast? Congratz, you've made such a point, that I have no way to say how proud I am and how much respect I need to give you.
That is very smart, see official factions first?
That's great!
*shakes AJBeast's hand*
Would you like to see an Unofficial Faction sub forum - Reverend Del - 05-24-2009
Unofficial factions getting trampled on? They have considerably more freedom than an official faction. They aren't nearly so heavily srutinised and I have absolutely nothing against Independents, Indies make the server as much as official factions do. Most of the quirky RP you'll remember comes from Indies. But a lot of unofficial factions are entirely unnecessary and with some actual negotiation with official factions, could become a part of those without any ill effects. Now those unofficial factions which come up because of a lack of an official faction in that slot are generally aiming for official status anyway and if they aren't then they should and will be allowed to continue, but having a seperate sub-forum for those ones is entirely unecessary.
Unofficial factions are one of the major sources of collective Admin pain, we've had issues with far more of those than we've ever had or likely ever will have with those factions who have run the gauntlet of requesting official status. I can't count the number I've persoanlly been involved with including some we've been forced to take apart. Others have had to be repeatedly beaten and with great force to get them to conform.
I want to avoid that as much as possible which is why we're going to be looking at ways to ensure that every faction, offcial or otherwise meets a certain standard of behaviour. A faction on Discovery should be more than a collection of tags, it should be something that adds to the RP of the server as a whole.