' Wrote::mellow:

We are talking about high Liberty BC count and possible ships for other houses.

Go take your anti-independent attitude into your own independent-bashing thread. (Or one of Sindroms.)

' Wrote:Yes, I twisted your words to make this post. It suited me. Just like it would suit anyone else, any other day of the week.

' Wrote:Rather predictable response, although I hadn't expected you to bring a thesaurus this time.
So... You're saying you're allowed to demand absolute freedom for anyone who wants it and point 'flaws' in relatively minor restrictions, accusing us of wanting absolute control, but we're not allowed to point out the major, evident and pre-existing flaws through metaphor?

[1:32:37 PM] Richard Pyle (n00bl3t) {Tumble-Weed} [Brthrn] says: Hypocrite.

No. Faction players are additionally restricted by hierarchy, peer pressure and good ol' Trial By Forum. Usually at least somebody in one of those three has at least the common sense to make sure they don't do something incredibly stupid and detrimental to 'fair play'.

You are anti-faction by the same means that you magically manage define anyone who wants even the slightest limitations to be imposed upon independents as 'anti-indie'. Despite the, once more, hypocrisy evident here, I find some humour in the fact that you need to use my full name to attempt to attain some superiority over me. And that's what we factions are attempting to do with indies, isn't it? Guess that makes you, once more, a hypocrite.

I can twist words too, as I have done here. In most circumstances I just find it to be child play, however it seems to be fitting here.

' Wrote:Not that I am complaining of some retard suddenly pointing fingers at me, but since when being biased is not a part of a humans mentality?

I have nothing against independents who are not lolwutters, a matter of fact, I wish more people like the LNS-Calypso or LNS-L.Fortress showed independent capship RP which is not effected by their npc factions player factions.

Nubby, if you have anything against little ol me, take it to my PM. Not that I will waste my time in answering, but keep this kind of **** off the boards, mkay?

As said, I am an anti-idiot, not anti-indie, I will do all that is in my power to keep lolwutting caps on my side of the faction to a minimum even if it will mean submitting Cassini with Terra Haute shipyard with a minefield around it.

' Wrote:I'm insulted by the accusation that "indy" capships are the cause of all problems. Care to put some blame on the factions too? Guess not.

' Wrote:The difference is factionalised players can, and are punished for poor behaviour. Independents can do whatever they like, with in the server rules. Unfortunately too many take that as an oppurtunity to be complete jerks about the way they play, and make the game less fun for other people. Faction members may do this sometimes too, but they can be slapped down for it.

And n00bl3t, if you plan to quote anti-indie messages from those chats, please remember to post the full context.
Finally, n00bl3t, you're making a scene. You're not going to accomplish anything this way. It's going to bounce back and forth, getting flamier and flamier until this thread gets locked.
And as I recall the LN Registry is an RP thread, and demanding to be removed from it because of an OOC reason doesn't seem right.

' Wrote:And n00bl3t, if you plan to quote anti-indie messages from those chats, please remember to post the full context.
Finally, n00bl3t, you're making a scene. You're not going to accomplish anything this way. It's going to bounce back and forth, getting flamier and flamier until this thread gets locked.
And as I recall the LN Registry is an RP thread, and demanding to be removed from it because of an OOC reason doesn't seem right.

' Wrote:There is no more punishment for Faction caps than for Indie ones, really.
Giving factions the power to controll capships means you point on 20 (random number, really) people, who will from now on have the right to say who is good and who is bad. No offense anyone. It's stupid. Twisted. Offensive- Based on personal grudges-favors-feelings. No thanks.

Special RP request for big ships would be nice tho, but in rough example, I don't want to get in situation when a player whom I dislike and who dislikes me get's to decide whether my RP is good and if I CAN fly what I want to fly.

Not only faction-caps owners RP, and not only indies do the lolwuting.

So again, special RP requests. At least for BSes if nothing else... But even for cruisers it would be fine, after all, majority, no, almost all of peopel in sirius do not get to fly capital ships, yet in our space, thigs that fly are actually 40-60% capital ships... No good.

' Wrote:'Tis not the caps classification, but how thou doth use it.