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Decency - teschy - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:1: Did you actually ask them not to attack you?
2: By flying through there expecting not to get attacked, you were acting ooc. Shame shame
3: The Corsaires were acting irp, while you are expecting them to act oorp. Its the most normal thing for half of the factions in Sirius to attack you, and also the most normal... psychologically.. for player to want to attack oyu because you are: a ganking faction, elitist, a closed elitist faction, do not have the reputation to do anyone a similar favor like :I am travelling to iota and 99 because its so much shorter to go tis way. Please let me pass?
4: You said 'corsairs' behave like that. I dont have a single corsiar, but I used to do the same, until I just accepted that there arent enough keepers so that everyone who wants gets to fight them.
1. No, I did not ask. I wasn't there OOC, even if I was originally headed for some other 'event' (which really wasn't, I just tried to help someone).
2. I was expecting to get yelled at and attacked by a few ships, but not by an entire hungry fleet.
3. The Corsairs were acting in RP.. by sending a dreadnought, and a whole lotta bombers/fighters to deal with a single, fleeing nomad, that didn't open a single shot at them. Okay.. about the 'keeper elitism, ganking'.. you know.. I'm just gonna stay away from it, because it's purely unfounded bash.
4. Well, yes I did mention Corsairs because this was the current situation. As you can see, I did not refer to the Corsairs as the whole player base, but the people that took part in this.
I didn't ask OOC, and I never expected a friendly attitude from anyone. Just some common sense, do I ask for that much?
Decency - Guest - 08-03-2009
0.0 Rule of DiscoGC: Dont be a dick
Decency - X-Lancer - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:Ok... first let me say that this thread was already on fire before I ever got here...
I have only a few questions and remarks, very neutral polite because I got nothing against you:
1: Did you actually ask them not to attack you?
2: By flying through there expecting not to get attacked, you were acting ooc. Shame shame
3: The Corsaires were acting irp, while you are expecting them to act oorp. Its the most normal thing for half of the factions in Sirius to attack you, and also the most normal... psychologically.. for player to want to attack oyu because you are: a ganking faction, elitist, a closed elitist faction, do not have the reputation to do anyone a similar favor like :I am travelling to iota and 99 because its so much shorter to go tis way. Please let me pass?
4: You said 'corsairs' behave like that. I dont have a single corsiar, but I used to do the same, until I just accepted that there arent enough keepers so that everyone who wants gets to fight them.
Last, a spot of advice:
-Be less elitist. People will respect you more, instead of less
-allow more nomad ships that can actuall fight a bit.
-Dont expect peopel to act oorp in your favor to be nice to you. The closed factions like Keepers and Phantoms dont have the reputation to be nice to others.
Last thing... try to actually understand what Im trying to say before feeling insulted.
1. No he didnt, and he shouldnt do that, because he is a Keeper, faction rule
2. do want ppl calling 10 Missile boat gang on your fighter/bomber?
3. oh yes, having 10 lulzwut missile boat saying "dai! engagez!" "letz killz him for teh lulz!" it's totally in RP.and, any ship other than BHG, Order FLEET flying around in Nomad home system is totally OoRP.
4. Everyone could be like that, but corsairs just happens to be overkilling the enemy more often than Liberty (oh yes, the lulzwut cap spam Liberty indis are behave way better than before IMO)
ganging should not happen even without ppl saying "play fair, back off abit"
Decency - Marlene_Humperdink - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:1. No, I did not ask.You should, if you expect them to act ooc and leave you alone. Before posting this, you might have asked them to stop. (was really avoiding to post *facepalm*)
' Wrote:3. The Corsairs were acting in RP.. by sending a dreadnought, and a whole lotta bombers/fighters to deal with a single, fleeing nomad, that didn't open a single shot at them. Okay.. about the 'keeper elitism, ganking'.. you know.. I'm just gonna stay away from it, because it's purely unfounded bash.You made your ships so that they can take out 3 or more pilots of same skill as you, as long as they use irp ships of same class.
And yes, its very much irp to send a fleet that will actually be able to do the job you want it to, and that will do it without suffering any losses. Especially when its a matter of life and death. With nomads, it is.
' Wrote:4. Well, yes I did mention Corsairs because this was the current situation. As you can see, I did not refer to the Corsairs as the whole player base, but the people that took part in this.Well, in the title you did, and then you gave names of individuals who were there.
' Wrote:I didn't ask OOC, and I never expected a friendly attitude from anyone. Just some common sense, do I ask for that much?Sorry, but I dont see a lot of common sense in what you are saying. Calm down and think it over.
Decency - n00bl3t - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:3. The Corsairs were acting in RP.. by sending a dreadnought, and a whole lotta bombers/fighters to deal with a single, fleeing nomad, that didn't open a single shot at them. Okay.. about the 'keeper elitism, ganking'.. you know.. I'm just gonna stay away from it, because it's purely unfounded bash.
Gamma is obviously not their most protected home system.
' Wrote:0.0 Rule of DiscoGC: Dont be a dick
Noted.:lol:
' Wrote:1. No he didnt, and he shouldnt do that, because he is a Keeper, faction rule
That seriously needs to changed then.
Decency - Marlene_Humperdink - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:0.0 Rule of DiscoGC: Dont be a dick
Ur a dick. And and so are many admins and moderators. You got dicks are everywhere, just in some positions they wont get reprimanded for it.
Decency - Zelot - 08-03-2009
Hey Teshy, I agree with you, but here is the thing, on this one I call it Karma. You were the one downing on Errant and supporting Zig, and now you talk about Decency to people OOC? Nah, I dont buy it, you reap what you sow. Do I think what these guys did is wrong? Yes, but we have created a community here where things like this are ok, and it is because of people like you.
I will give you your own comments to illustrate my point.
Quote:
Honestly I don't see why everyone puts the blame on Zig. Stuff like this happened in the past, and it was perfectly in roleplay and nobody whined.
Well Teshy, stuff like this happened in the past, it's totally in rp, so stop whining I guess, or at least understand when other people do it, now you know how they feel.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I guess I should point out again how trial by forum is not acceptable..except when it targets Corsairs. Lock maybe?
Decency - teschy - 08-03-2009
Hey, can I ask Mwerte to remove this user from my thread as well? =|:{D
Edit: .. not you Zelot..
Decency - n00bl3t - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:Ur a dick. And and so are many admins and moderators. You got dicks are everywhere, just in some positions they wont get reprimanded for it.
Marlene, edit please. No point bringing this up. Seriously, it is better to stay unbanned.
' Wrote:Hey Teshy, I agree with you, but here is the thing, on this one I call it Karma. You were the one downing on Errant and supporting Zig, and now you talk about Decency to people OOC? Nah, I dont buy it, you reap what you sow. Do I think what these guys did is wrong? Yes, but we have created a community here where things like this are ok, and it is because of people like you.
I will give you your own comments to illustrate my point.
Well Teshy, stuff like this happened in the past, it's totally in rp, so stop whining I guess, or at least understand when other people do it, now you know how they feel.
Zelot wins the thread with the hypocrisy play. I wanted to avoid saying it, but eh. True.
Decency - komet - 08-03-2009
' Wrote:0.0 Rule of DiscoGC: Dont be a dick
*Looks at sig*
Those Corsairs should read over that thread sometime... But the Corsairs are not the only people who do stuff like this. Pirates gank, lawfuls gank, terrorists gank, and sometimes those blue guys gank. Hell, I'm not inocent either. The Corsairs are a good example, but like I said they are not the only people who do this. Sometimes it comes down to indies or even faction members not listenin to each other about not overkilling other people.
Believe me, I have seen it all, and there is really nothing you can do about it other than prepare for the worst everytime that wide cinema screen dissapears.
In other words: bring countermeasures.