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Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Luis - 05-21-2010

@Tycho: It suppose to resemble the same Arcs that the OSIRIS has. The launchbays are sitting perfectly - moving them backwards will look like it is straining to move forward - or it will look like a male reproduction system (penis) on top view. Therefore, I have no good reason to move them from where they are. Though, thanks for your critique!:)

Also, as everyone was waiting for -- here's the fixed bow and fixed hanger doors:

[Image: OCsView.png]

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Durandal - 05-21-2010

You misunderstood - I'm not saying move the whole thing backwards, I'm saying to lengthen them. As for the arcs, I think they're a little spammed. No reason why we can't have a bit of variety from ship to ship.

In any case, the nose looks better. Not perfect, but much better. It's hard to say what to do with it not having the model on hand, though.

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Luis - 05-21-2010

It wouldn't really matter if I extend the launch tubes. Because Discovery GC doesnt have a command for players that can dock on Carriers. I the launch bays are there and 'short' in lenght just to represent a 'Carrier'.

As a Resullt - look at the stations - especially those that have the small ship bays. How many you think it would fit in there? proably 2. But a dozen and dozens of ships dock in those things. It is made to represent a docking bay - nothing real life.

Anyways - is time to texture it. Wish me luck!

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Tenacity - 05-21-2010

The new nose looks good.

If I may suggest hardpoints and stats based on Mjolnir's plans for 4.86:

Red hardpoint locations are heavy battleship turrets (bs razors, mortars/heavy mortars, heavy cerberus turrets), green hardpoint locations are normalght battleship turrets (primaries, secondaries, solaris, pulses, etc. etc.)

I believe mjolnir said that there would be 3 different bs turret classes in 4.86, but that higher classes (like heavy turret hardpoints) could still equip medium or light turrets, so the green ones would just need to be made medium hardpoints so they can equip either medium or light turrets.

As for stats, with this ship being - according to luis - 15% or so bigger than the osiris...
Hull: 1,000,000
Cargo: 2,000
Power: 8,000,000
Regen: 260,000
Max impulse: 90
Equipment: No thruster, 1x CM, no CD
Guns/Turrets: 0/14 (2 more turrets than the osiris)

It's still lighter than the liberty carrier or marduk by far, but according to that 15% size estimate it'd be smaller (and thus more agile) as well.

The hardpoint arcs illustrated above would give the ship 3 forward firing heavy weapons, 1 rear firing heavy weapon, up to 6 mediumght weapons forward, 4-5 mediumght weapons to each side, and 10 mediumght weapons backward.

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Geeky - 05-21-2010

@Tenacity: I have a problem with your hardpoints scheme. As far as i see there are no turrets firing directly below it. This might be a really bad weakspot.

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Tenacity - 05-21-2010

' Wrote:@Tenacity: I have a problem with your hardpoints scheme. As far as i see there are no turrets firing directly below it. This might be a really bad weakspot.

The side turrets can all fire straight up or down.

If anything, there would be weak spots on the sides, if side-mounted turrets cant fire directly "up"

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Luis - 05-21-2010

Correction!

Tenacity, you are very close on where were the hardpoints for the turrets - however, not where i thought it would be.

Here's my idea on where the weapons would be.

[Image: OCs3.png]

THOUGH! - there's hardpoints underneath the launch bay.

In total count - there's 15 turrets!:P

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Tenacity - 05-21-2010

Hm... that'd work as well =P

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Jinx - 05-21-2010

i m not so sure - but has the official " order| " already commented on that issue? - that means... getting rid of the geb-experiment ( yes, it was an experiment to do so many cruiser turrets on a large ship instead of a common battlecruiser / cruiser )

and replacing it with a large and heavy battleship.

it will change a fair bit.

a battleship, a heavy one especially is still like 4+ times larger than the geb, cause - contrary to some believe, the geb is still smaller than most medium and heavy battleships i think ( except lib DN and bret BB, which are oddly tiny and still almost heavy BBs )

the order would loose a battering ram with thrusters and gain a heavy ship without CD, without thrusters etc.

leaving the order with only a very light cruiser class long range support vessel ( which isn t even meant to support a fleet anyway )

so - before you get too excited, - really make up your minds if you WANT that change ( no, you will most certainly not get both ) - cause if you decide to change it - i ll rub it in your faces in like 1 year time, when posts about order missing a medium cruiser sized vessel with some firepower appear.

Order Heavy Carrier -UPDATED #3- - Luis - 05-21-2010

Anyways...

Here's a size comparison with the Osiris.

[Image: Sample9.png]