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Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - casero - 07-22-2010
@Tycho:
That idea didn't come from Zelot or the devteam (or I don't know if they thought on that either), but Lotek (KNF leader) and me (KNF Co-Leader) talked about it, do you think that our characters based on samurai beliefs would betray their emperor? Not Sulu or Hiroito would do such a thing, even if the Emperor were not there to fight alongside with them. We decided to leave our characters there as [KNF] (You can call them Ronin even though it's not quite accurate as we follow our Master, the Emperor) and keep up the fight we have been fighting for so long now.
Even if Igiss wouldn't have posted this, our idea was to keep them in Leeds, and even more, we were going to fight against BAF still, but seems that is not going to be able anymore, not a big problem.
I don't know if it's a new NPC faction called Ronin, not that I care anyway (And I don't think it's a new NPC faction), as we were going to do it as KNF.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - pipboy - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:As current head of the La Brise family, I will say that I can see us buying artifacts off the Hogosha, as for letting them have access to our terratory, bases etc. well, I don't see it happening, without similar offers from the hogoshaI'm not sure how selling artifacts to Gallia through the UC is "taking over". The UC need a supplier, the Hogosha have the supplies. Put two and two together.
Our space and market are supremely important to the Unione corse, and thier not going to make consesions without the hogosha making some. If the Hogosha think that we are thier free pass into gallia, i would rethink that notion seriously.
What is more likely going ot happen is we'll escort select trade convoys into gallia for the right price. But if the Hogosha intend to move into our space, expect La Brise family members messing with your own black market.
Look at the modern day drug trade. Mafia's in the USA sure don't care for Columbian drug cartels, or for Japanese Yakuza or Chinese Triads, but they'll sure as hell buy product from them. It's a mutually beneficial business relationship.
I also kind of find it amusing how people are trying to say that the story written by Igiss about the RP of a faction created by Igiss doesn't make sense. You all know more about the UC than the creator of the UC? Perhaps before you all started defining your RP you should have waited for the writer to finish the story so you wouldn't have conflicts? Perhaps? Just a thought.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Zelot - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:Eh, I could be wrong, and they could be inactive, but I do see them on from time to time... or at least, I did. Still, the essence of my point stands; it's awfully rude to just take the name of an established, albeit unofficial, faction. Maybe not illegal, but rude nevertheless.
What's wrong with giving them a poke, asking if they're still active and if the name could be used? You know... a lil' courtesy. Never hurt anyone.
Then again, talking about courtesy in this community is like talking about courtesy with a Somalian pirate.:$
I find it really, really amusing that you assume that I didn't check with the people in question. You know what they say when you assume....
Edit@ Tycho, sir, you really have no clue what you are talking about.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Durandal - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:Edit@ Tycho, sir, you really have no clue what you are talking about.
I am assuming, that to warrant a mention, the Ronin as they are called are getting their own NPC faction and ID. If I'm wrong, then you're right, I do have no idea.
But the point I'm trying to make is, it's basically just a faction springing up over night. Factions aren't exactly made easily, particularly small splinter factions like these ones. You'd need a ton of ingame RP, logged, along with a well fleshed out writeup and approval from the admin team.
And if you're planning on countering with Gallia, it doesn't really work, since it's an entire house.
Edit: And why the heck did that quote Casero..?
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - pipboy - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:I am assuming, that to warrant a mention, the Ronin as they are called are getting their own NPC faction and ID.Nope.
' Wrote:I do have no idea.Yep.
' Wrote:But the point I'm trying to make is, it's basically just a faction springing up over night. Factions aren't exactly made easily, particularly small splinter factions like these ones. You'd need a ton of ingame RP, logged, along with a well fleshed out writeup and approval from the admin team.And I'm going to counter with Gallia anyway. The Ronin are a storyline faction that have come in with the addition of Gallia. The Gallia story brings changes to the areas around it, the Ronin are one of those changes. If you read the storyline for the Ronin you will see two things. First they have nothing at all to do with the Ronin| currently in game, second the group sprang up overnight because they actually spring up over night in the storyline. Some KNF get abandoned and left behind in Bretonia, so they make their own way. This happened suddenly, virtually over night! Rather than roll over and disperse, they find ways to survive and fight against what they see as the real enemy while keeping their identity as Kusari warriors and their loyalty to what they see as the true Emperor of Kusari.
And if you're planning on countering with Gallia, it doesn't really work, since it's an entire house.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Zelot - 07-22-2010
Tycho, how would you suggest a group that is brought about by the story line, very suddenly, do years of ingame and forum rp? Hmmm?
And yes, Gallia is the perfect comparison, thank you very much, you have just made my point.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Durandal - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:And I'm going to counter with Gallia anyway. The Ronin are a storyline faction that have come in with the addition of Gallia.
True, but not the point I was trying to make
' Wrote:The Gallia story brings changes to the areas around it, the Ronin are one of those changes. If you read the storyline for the Ronin you will see two things. First they have nothing at all to do with the Ronin| currently in game, second the group sprang up overnight because they actually spring up over night in the storyline. Some KNF get abandoned and left behind in Bretonia, so they make their own way. This happened suddenly, virtually over night! Rather than roll over and disperse, they find ways to survive and fight against what they see as the real enemy while keeping their identity as Kusari warriors and their loyalty to what they see as the true Emperor of Kusari.
If anyone were to make a faction of Libertonian raiders trapped behind enemy lines in Rheinland, I somehow wouldn't see it getting very far.
But I guess my entire argument is invalid since they're just going to be using the KNF ID/IFF anyway, which's cool with me.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Zelot - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:If anyone were to make a faction of Libertonian raiders trapped behind enemy lines in Rheinland, I somehow wouldn't see it getting very far.
Yes but if the person who created it was Igiss, I do somehow think it would get far.
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - pipboy - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:Yes but if the person who created it was Igiss, I do somehow think it would get far.I was typing that, and then NINJA!
Also am I wrong in understanding that there will actually be a Ronin ID/IFF?
Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Kusari in 818 A.S. - Zelot - 07-22-2010
' Wrote:Also am I wrong in understanding that there will actually be a Ronin ID/IFF?
The plans for that have not been finalized.