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Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Why is it silly to have Privateers? Have you never read a history book on some very famous people, considered British heroes, especially by their Queen at the time?
Why do you continually ignore the presence of the non-Privateer QCO, who act like a Bretonian military at all times?
And why should we bother explaining ourselves to your friends who can't even be bothered to read the forums?
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
Sir Francis Drake indeed, but he was not called the Queens Privateer such piracy is my problem. You dont link the Queen to Privateering not a Bretonian queen at that. People just want a Bretonian clan they actually want to join which is understandable and to the point not all this privateers hired by queen they also merc crap, its not right at all it needs changing. Sirius groups ruling Bretonian is even worse... Something has to be done or someone else should control Bretonian and let the little privateers do there own mercenary rp which has nothing to do with militarial action.
Mean time lets not argue lets agree to disagree and then agree on Kusari needs sorting out first before Bretonian reform can take place at all.
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Someone isn't paying attention to a word I'm saying are they...
QCP are not true Mercenaries. The Merc ID is our 'Letter of Marque', which if you bothered to read about, you'd know was rather common.
AGAIN, the QCO are BAF IDed and tagged Military. A real Bretonian faction, as you put it, filling all your little criteria.
And again, on history, Sir Francis Drake, a Privateer, was high-ranked in the Royal Navy and received a knighthood for his actions. He also received personal gifts from the Queen herself, so 'Queen's Privateer' isn't far from the mark.
Calling on Bretonia - Drake - 11-07-2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer
There have been many British privateers throughout history.
And, as Blunt has pointed out, you, Vanquisher, seem to be completely missing the point. QCO and QCP are DIFFERENT. QCO are not privateers, but an offensive military. QCP are the privateers and are just a small wing of QCO, somewhat outside the normal ranking structure and chain of command.
Edit: Also, anyone who doesn't with to participate in the forums has no say in anything, as far as I'm concerned. They are... meaningless.
Calling on Bretonia - Equinox - 11-07-2007
Vanquisher you are not getting what Ares is saying? the QCO are NOT privateers, they are a military much like RM, they do have a wing underneath them that deals with the KNF and disrupting trade which is far from pirating.
If what you say is true and you have all these people that are against it then let them post, but i think your over stating things to try and get your point across, because ive been here awhile and haven't heard one bad thing about them.
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
If you cant be bothered then you need to make way for reform frankly... You cannot serve a queen privately and be called privateers your name would be royal guard or royal army along those lines, Queens and Privateers dont go they just dont i study History and they dont compute, especially when they also take contracts from other organisations aka mercenarying which would never be accepted by a queen as its an insult to your loyalty to her directly.
You dont need to explain it you need to sort it out, nothing you say in your defence changes the fact that the names are bullesed up i have told you i appreciate the work and the QC bit is a smashing idea but the Privateers just ruined it when you put QC before it they just dont go they stand for much different and cannot relate together. The roleplay skills are exceptional this is not a direct slag its just a need for Bretonia to step up and sort itself out and have some kind of structure publicised for everyone. But matter at hand Kusari, what you suggest happens...?
What do you feel about my idea of KSA Kusari Shogunate Army...? Something unique to Kusari so think Samurais and Warlords like Nobunaga Oda and Ieyasu Tokugawa and Hideyoshi Toyotomi, remember dragons being significant to it and try implement a good unique name what is not bland any ideas on future for Kusari...?
Calling on Bretonia - vanquisher1991 - 11-07-2007
I understand what your saying but Queens Privateer is still far from the mark completely, yes the royals counted him a hero but he cannot be a privateer and serve the queen and then merc for someone else a bit to the queen would not allow such a crime, to merc and claim loyalty to the queen contradict. QCO Queen Carinas Own well that really makes sense dont it...? Sounds like a military presence...? No i dont think so thus needs renaming, 3 needs to become 2 simple Internal and External Security and Order = Internal Defence and War = External and they need relevant names to there roles, if the QC dont wanna do it let someone else take the militarial role and sort the lack of structure out
EDIT: Please use the edit button to add to your posts/points as opposed to double posting back to back.
Thanks,
AC_Merc
Calling on Bretonia - uspatriotsf - 11-07-2007
@Equinox and Lancer: I understand that we had stopped talking about a new faction since the begining of this thread. I was just responding to that first thread, and using it as a chance to pull out my soap box. Maybe shouldnt have but oh well. My apologies if it was taken harshly.
Besides, my main objective was to say that we should give the SF (Firebird) a chance to respond to this. The other stuff was just secondary.
Calling on Bretonia - bluntpencil2001 - 11-07-2007
Again, Sir Francis Drake, a Privateer, was a Vice-Admiral for the Queen.
Also, Privateers generally worked for a specific monarchy, the one that issued their Letters of Marque. This would also let them take on paying contracts against those enemies listed in the Letter of Marque.
EDIT: I think Firebird can post without reading half of this, actually, since it is now about 'how Privateers are silly'.
Calling on Bretonia - Equinox - 11-07-2007
Wow im speechless, who gives you the right to dictate how it should be done?, all this is your idea of how things should be done, do you really think they will change for one person thats been here 2 minutes, noone else has a problem with it.
Also the queen used to even take loot from the pirates back in the day, they also employed pirates when the Spanish invaded so you need to go work more on that history your studying.