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Samarran Raiders - Vito - 08-07-2011
The writeup is nice, I give you that.
In game I have only met you once and I'm still thinking about submitting a sanction report but I hope you won't need some time in Bastille in order to make you understand this: keep within the limits of your ID.
You use Pirate ID's and what you did in Dublin was PVP abuse, rule wise. You can't just go around shooting people with a Pirate ID even if you don't like them. I don't have any problems with being killed as long as its done within the game rules. Seeing a three Pirate ID'd players go "omg ! corsair ! kill !" is not only illegal, its also lame.
Please take this post for what it is, constructive criticism. It's not rage, Q_Q or anything like that
Samarran Raiders - PRJKTLRD - 08-07-2011
We didnt did anything wrong,we wasnt like omg!sair!kill...... Anyways,i understand you also,but read again our lore.
Samarran Raiders - Jeremy Hunter - 08-07-2011
Sorry, but Rules > Lore.
If it was Lore>Rules we at Ye Old CrossBones Foundation have a few RPCs and pewpew like crazy.
Pirate ID has restrictions, hence why we don't engegegebuggung all we see.
Gotta follow the rules mate:)
I took another look at your lore and spotted something: since you worship the Nomads, I would say you should put The Order as hostile, since it is our mission to fight the Nomads and make sure they are not a threat to Humanity.
Samarran Raiders - Alley - 08-07-2011
A lore is never a justification for abusive/not very according to rules ingame actions, please remember this.
Samarran Raiders - PRJKTLRD - 08-07-2011
Of course we do folow rules
Samarran Raiders - Vito - 08-07-2011
' Wrote:We didnt did anything wrong,we wasnt like omg!sair!kill...... Anyways,i understand you also,but read again our lore.
Actually you did and tho' I don't wanna turn this into a trial-by-forum I'll make it clear to you, for your own good.
Quote:Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence,All the unlawful faction ID's have this line. The Pirate ID does not. The lore (even one as nicely written as yours) is irrelevant in front of the game rules and, even more, the ID is above the game rules.
I hope you understand it now. Next time just ask for 100k, a beer or some sexual favors. Sooner or later you'll find someone in rage mode and they will report you
EDIT: In case you still don't get it you can not engage anyone without making demands
Samarran Raiders - SoF - 08-07-2011
Demand: I asked him to stop and answer my question..
Reply: Gtho!
Result: Death.
This sums it up.
As you can see, everything is in place.
Samarran Raiders - Vito - 08-07-2011
' Wrote:Demand: I asked him to stop and answer my question..
Reply: Gtho!
Result: Death.
This sums it up.
As you can see, everything is in place.
(SR =/= XTF and the Pirate ID =/= the Outcast ID. Ignore that at your own expense, I wont spend my time trying to explain you what you can or can not do with a Pirate ID
Samarran Raiders - SoF - 08-07-2011
' Wrote:Next time just ask for 100k, a beer or some sexual favors.I don't want to waste my time on you either. So stop smearing my people.
EDIT: In case you still don't get it you can not engage anyone without making demands
I told you the demand was that you stop and listen to me, and answer my questions. You did not accept my demands and insulted me.
So the demand is there. If you think you will get away with this you are wrong.
Samarran Raiders - Vito - 08-07-2011
' Wrote:I don't want to waste my time on you either. So stop smearing my people.[07.08.2011 17:07:10] (SR~Lerdi: Mmmm,i found a canibal
I told you the demand was that you stop and listen to me, and answer my questions. You did not accept my demands and insulted me.
So the demand is there. If you think you will get away with this you are wrong.
[07.08.2011 17:07:21] Vito`|Sails: Really?
[07.08.2011 17:08:19] Vito`|Sails: Fine, what now?
[07.08.2011 17:08:38] (SR~Thrax: What are you doing here?
[07.08.2011 17:08:52] Vito`|Sails: What makes you think I have to answer to you, gringo?
[07.08.2011 17:09:00] (SR~Thrax: Your life depends on it.
[07.08.2011 17:09:16] Vito`|Sails: That is not even funny
[07.08.2011 17:09:30] (SR~Thrax: Yeah, truth is never funny
[07.08.2011 17:09:32] Vito`|Sails: now shoo !!!
[07.08.2011 17:09:37] Vito`|Sails: I'm busy
[07.08.2011 17:09:49] (SR~Lerdi: Foolish canibal.
[07.08.2011 17:09:54] (SR~Thrax: come over here...
[07.08.2011 17:10:05] Vito`|Sails: How about no?
[07.08.2011 17:10:18] (SR~Lerdi: Have it your way
[07.08.2011 17:10:25] (SR~Thrax: Well then we shall chase you with our guns shooting at ypu...
[07.08.2011 17:10:36] (SR~Ivan.Dulin: He's launching mines!
[07.08.2011 17:10:39] Vito`|Sails: Take your best shot
[07.08.2011 17:11:11] Vito`|Sails: Amateurs... you are pathetic
Just to settle the "insulting you" part, that came after the three of you started shooting.
What you understand by "demand" its not the same as the demand you have to make to traders before you shoot them. Pirates pirate, ok?
Pirate ID
Can demand credits or cargo from traders and unallied smugglers or factions
Unlawful ID
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence,
Can demand credits or cargo from traders and unallied smugglers or factions,
The fact that you think you made a RP demand is not relevant, the Pirate ID doesn't allow you to shoot someone someone in a fighter simply because you don't like him and after making a RP demand so that you won't be sanctioned under rule 6.6. I was in a light fighter and that rule only applies to transports. What allows you to engage anyone you want is exactly the line missing from your ID
I am talking to your leader on Skype and he seems to understand what you're doing wrong, I suggest you listen to him and lose this arrogant attitude
At the end I'm not sure what you understand by me "getting away with this". I'm only trying to help you play it right because I actually like your story