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Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - sable - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Fighting the same (3 or 4) people over and over again in the same setting with 3 million NPC's all over the place gets old. Dieter had a nice thing going. If he can't continue, why doesn't another admin pick it up?
Come on,
There are way more than 3-4 people. Just look at GRN|, you have loads of members. More than [C], and also more than +LE+. See what I'm seeing?
I don't want to blame you for anything, but you can't say it's Gallia's fault only.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - Bloom - 05-29-2011
Knowing that they won't get a shot, due to that rule, is a poor motivator.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - Not Espi - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Come on,
There are way more than 3-4 people. Just look at GRN|, you have loads of members. More than [C], and also more than +LE+. See what I'm seeing?
I don't want to blame you for anything, but you can't say it's Gallia's fault only.
im not. both factions are full if inactive b'tards. fact.
maybe - just maybe - it's because of the fact that we all have been in the house for over a year and most of the time nothing was happening. but atm, i blame joe and my own lazyness for not being active in [C]. I NEED MY ARMOR AND SNACS AND RAZORS BACK, but i cant force myself to go trade.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - Sturmwind - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Is someone else clamoring for the Molly or VPS spot?
I don't think so, but it's a better motivator for people to start a faction when they know there's a spot free than not having any assurance of ever going official.
Although, I do think that generic ID factions should be given a longer period of waiting time before they're disbanded.
But well, this system is not quite perfect to begin with, I don't see what measures can be done for example when a special ID faction is disbanded.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - casero - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Fighting the same (3 or 4) people over and over again in the same setting with 3 million NPC's all over the place gets old. Dieter had a nice thing going. If he can't continue, why doesn't another admin pick it up?
You don't need an admin to start planning events with other players.
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I've said this in the previous warning thread, quit multifactioning, it will kill all the official factions slowly.
I don't know how many players are in [GRN] or in the Council or GMS or any other gallic faction, but I'm pretty sure that if you play only there, more people will join you, not only your faction, but they will start playing more in Gallia. I know what many can be thinking "playing on just 1 faction?", if it's so important to keep the "official" status, then why not?
Let's say John is in [RHA], [KNF], [LN], [RM], BAF|, RepEx.
Activity warning for [RHA]
John plays his RHA hard.
But then, Activity warning for BAF
John plays his BAF hard.
But then, Activity warning for LN
John plays his LN hard.
Activity warning for RM
John plays his RM hard.
Activity warning for KNF
John plays his KNF hard.
Activity warning for RepEx
John plays his RepEx hard.
Activity warning for [RHA]
...
And that does happen.
It's not like the other houses are different, Kusari, Rheinland, and now Bretonia are suffering the same thing. Lawfuls and unlawfuls are to get bored from shooting eachother all the time (Not in Liberty, because it gets to be a PvP house most of time), shooting the same 2 guys everyday IS boring. Which is why all the houses have other factions.
I can talk about Kusari, because it's the one I know more, while most of players complain about Hogosha and Farmers, they bring a different aspect to the house, more things to do, but only, if you keep your mind open, which I admit I didn't do all the time.
I do agree that the NPCs in Gallia are sooooooooooooo annoying, I don't want even imagine how's there with a transport (only been there with fighters, gunboat), making them less powerfuls willl help, from my point of view.
I understand Gheis' point of view, I won't lie saying I never got bored here. But, I think that's more to do with his own person, and he got bored of disco as a whole in 1 year, in 1 year I didn't do all the things I wanted to do, but that's me, that's how I am, he's different than me, that he feels Disco different than me doesn't make it wrong, but doesn't make Disco wrong either. Everyone experiences things in a different way. With this, I don't mean that changes would be bad, he doesn't hold the absulute true, neither do I.
To conclude, and my advice to everyone is, choose 1 or 2 factions, and stay with them, if you really want them to stay official. From the observations I've made, an official faction with members dedicated almost exclusively to that faction (maybe another one as well) has always a more stable player base, has more ingame interaction with others, and doesn't get activity warnings heh.
It might sound like cutting down your freedom, but if it's worth to be official....
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - mwerte - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Knowing that they won't get a shot, due to that rule, is a poor motivator.Nothings stopping people from making an unofficial faction, which if they can do if they are really interested in playing as those characters, not just having the faction status.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - Bloom - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:Nothings stopping people from making an unofficial faction, which if they can do if they are really interested in playing as those characters, not just having the faction status.
Why did the faction that is getting it's rights revoked want officialdom to begin with, then?
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - alphadog - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:You don't need an admin to start planning events with other players.In this Conquest thing, yes you do. Right now, its pretty much impossible to bring in anything bigger then a gunboat. NPC bombers are WAY more powerful then the player bombers, and there are always too many of them. Always. We can RP the conquering of Languedoc all we want, but the weapon platforms are even worse then the NPC's there, so we can't make any real progress. Also, the restarts were removed, but without any sort of alternative. Those restarts worked, so we need an admin to bring those back without the option for abuse.
Its not just Gallia itself, but it is a big factor, and it is a factor we can fix. With Admin help. (and 86!)
About the multifaction thing, I agree. But thats something you'll have to figure out yourself. Limiting yourself to one faction isn't always a good thing, certainly if you want to play, but there isn't anything to do. I think people figure this out on their own, at least I did.
' Wrote:There are way more than 3-4 people. Just look at GRN|, you have loads of members. More than [C], and also more than +LE+. See whatLike martin said, you'd be surprised. We have a semi-stable playerbase of 3-4 players who actually show up when you scream in the chat. We have a few others who play from time to time, but certainly not on a regular basis. Its a circle, people quit because there's nothing to do, and GRN isn't the only one it seems.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - casero - 05-29-2011
' Wrote:In this Conquest thing, yes you do. Right now, its pretty much impossible to bring in anything bigger then a gunboat. NPC bombers are WAY more powerful then the player bombers, and there are always too many of them. Always. We can RP the conquering of Languedoc all we want, but the weapon platforms are even worse then the NPC's there, so we can't make any real progress. Also, the restarts were removed, but without any sort of alternative. Those restarts worked, so we need an admin to bring those back without the option for abuse.
Its not just Gallia itself, but it is a big factor, and it is a factor we can fix. With Admin help. (and 86!)
If that's true, then you are right, I didn't know Dieter was using his magic:P
Quote:About the multifaction thing, I agree. But thats something you'll have to figure out yourself. Limiting yourself to one faction isn't always a good thing, certainly if you want to play, but there isn't anything to do. I think people figure this out on their own, at least I did.
Isn't always good? Depends on you, that's one way for sure to get the faction active. It's an option, which works.
Admin Notice: Faction Statuses Revoked; Warnings for Inactivity - Pancakes - 05-29-2011
I think that one of the reasons that [C] and and +LE+ have more activity is mainly the fact that both can leave gallia, and can get into tau 23, which is quite eventful system.