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Here's an idea - dodike - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:Peter_Dingo called it TLAGSNET, but it doesn't have to be TLAGSNET. The USI was designed by <strike>the Hackers</strike> Ageira and lore states they already use it to get information. So this is all pretty much irrelevant.Rumours indicate the Hackers have access to the technology. Whether it was stolen by the same people who developed it is a mere speculation.
Here's an idea - Enoch - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:oh... so USI designed some years ago could provide info about TLAGSNET ?The USI has little to do with TLAGSNET.
' Wrote:Rumours indicate the Hacker have access to the technology. Whether it was stolen by the same people who developed it is a mere speculation.The in-game description of the LH NPC faction states that they can monitor TL traffic, so it's got to be either TLAGSNET or USI. But TLAGSNET isn't mentioned in the lore, as far as I know.
Here's an idea - Mímir - 03-04-2012
The reason why you might not have seen Hackers RP'ing hacking could be the fact that the outcome would be nothing. Even if I RP'ed my way to information, I still wouldn't have it on the fly.
Yes, I might be able to establish some RP with the official Ageira faction, and they might let me know at what time and through which route they plan on sending out a single transport or a convoy, but that would be that.
What happened to Hackers supplying Rogues with general information on upcoming trade ships?
And of course it is very helpful to have access to the information held by people who built the system. Very very helpful when it comes to decryption. For instance in your WWII example, had the British access to the person who wrote the code, I bet you they would have decrypted it a lot faster...
Also the wiki states that Hackers are one step ahead when it comes to bypassing security measures.
Also think of real life computer pirates and hackers - they are constantly one step ahead too. Look at how fast games are cracked and put online for download, for instance. Skyrim was available for download two weeks prior to release on the 360, and a cracked steam copy was out 1 hour after release in Australia - I am in Denmark, and if I had wanted to, I could have downloaded the cracked steam version before it was even available for purchase on Steam in my country. Yes yes, this is computer games and such, but hackers/crackers DO have a tendency to be one step ahead in real life.
No reason to believe that it should have changed radically, especially seeing the emphasis put on the Lane Hackers' super high skill level + the fact that they get constantly supplied with inside information.
Lore-wise I dont see the problem in letting Hackers gain access to TLAGSNET, it has to be done in a balanced way, however.
Here's an idea - dodike - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:The USI has little to do with TLAGSNET.Developing a different tool that does the same doesn't seem that much likely to me.
Here's an idea - Enoch - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:Developing a different tool that does the same doesn't seem that much likely to me.Tell that to Cannon, I guess.
' Wrote:Enoch How hard you try I don't about Hacker RP, so arguing with me wont make sense. But I am damn sure LH wont get it.Sorry but I just don't get that part.
Here's an idea - Narendran87 - 03-04-2012
And the same HAWX 2 game is still isn't cracked. You can't get everything right. Saying this, " LH are super hackers. They have access to everything and anything they need. " is all I get.
Sorry But I am getting out.
Here's an idea - dodike - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:The USI has little to do with TLAGSNET.TLAGSNET is a tool that allows police forces to access USI data in real time.
The in-game description of the LH NPC faction states that they can monitor TL traffic, so it's got to be either TLAGSNET or USI. But TLAGSNET isn't mentioned in the lore, as far as I know.
Here's an idea - Enoch - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:And the same HAWX 2 game is still isn't cracked. You can't get everything right. Saying this, " LH are super hackers. They have access to everything and anything they need. " is all I get.You are outrageously dumb.
Sorry But I am getting out.
Here's an idea - dodike - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:And the same HAWX 2 game is still isn't cracked. You can't get everything right. Saying this, " LH are super hackers. They have access to everything and anything they need. " is all I get.I think you missed the point entirely.
Sorry But I am getting out.
Here's an idea - Mímir - 03-04-2012
' Wrote:And the same HAWX 2 game is still isn't cracked. You can't get everything right. Saying this, " LH are super hackers. They have access to everything and anything they need. " is all I get.
Sorry But I am getting out.
Nobody ever said that. What I suggested is that the Lane Hackers have access to the stuff they themselves played a part in developing + lore suggests they have access to (ie. the comment on the wiki about hackers supplying Rogues with info on trade ships coming their way) + could have access to through Hacker-sympathizers within Ageira.
I am not asking for the Hackers to have blueprints for the LSC forward gun. Or knowledge of the path through the minefield to Zone 21. Or access to the full compiled research LSF has on the Order and on the Nomads etc.
All I thought about was making TLAGSNET available in a balanced fashion, which could be by making it ship-specific or a super expensive piece of kit that wouldn't be worth its value except for providing new and interesting ways to approach piracy in terms of game-mechanics and RP.