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The next time i see a '5m or die' - Tenacity - 05-27-2008
Convenient that you left out the first several minutes of the encounter.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - Nevermore - 05-27-2008
' Wrote:This was a prime example, I was stopped by the AFA because I was a junker. I got the OORP "5million or your life" spam, and after nearly five minutes of trying to convince the guy that I was, in fact, HELPING kusari (which he should have been grateful for), he just kept on demanding money. I tried to run, he chased me about for a good 10 minutes, and I died. I honestly didnt expect to get away from a gunboat with train disruptors, and I certainly cant win a fight against one in my firefly, but that's not what pisses me off here... what does piss me off is the fact that the 'pirate' didnt even attempt to converse or RP with me despite my efforts.
I dont care if he's in the flagship of your alliance or not. I dont care if he's a kusari pilot and I'm a junker. Fact remains that he didnt put any effort at all into it, and was using the situation entirely to get easy money or pvp whore.
What you're missing is... the AFA didn't have to let you go, just because you claim to help the Kusari government. There is, and in my eyes the more probable option that he wouldn't believe a word that came from a Junker. They're known as cunning, and why should he give you the benefit of the doubt, to someone who's diplomatically unfriendly? Would it be better rp, if he just has let you go? I don't think so.
To be honest, I can't see a trace of oorp here. Neither the "OORP spam '5million or your life'", nor your response, nor his insistance on his demand. Sure, he could've elaborated the situation more, like stating his disbelief or whatever, but that doesn't make the encounter oorp.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - song - 05-27-2008
I'll have to jump in here too.
If you look at Japanese history up to WWII or have lived in contemporary Japan (aka Kusari), there is a very different threshold for disrespect and submission.
I have two friends who spent time in a Japanese jail and let me tell you, you come to know what "gaijin" means there. You are not "Japanese"--you are a criminal gaijin. Even the other criminals there (along with the jailers) see you as the bottom of the bucket.
A wrong remark in Japanese society can cause you to lose your job or go to jail. And if you are a foreigner, the indignity is even greater.
No "Kusari" will "like" foreign interests running about with all the liberties of "nationals"--even the criminals.
Hogosha have an alliance with the Corsairs--but you will not see the Hogosha letting Corsairs base in Kusari--in fact, they will insist they stay out under all but the most extraordinary circumstances. It is Kusari space.
If there was an Corsair or Outcast invasion of Kusari--as in to take over, you would see Blood Dragons, Golden Chrysanthemums, KNF, KP, Hogosha and shippers fighting together to repulse them.
Different world here.
Rheinland has the "German" view towards order and authority--try disrespecting the cops or military there.
Sirius is not "one big free speech and total personal freedom zone"-- just like real life isn't. RP should reflect that.
Junkers in Kusari are viewed like a foreign mafia--of the worst sort--trying to come in and poison society and bring in unthinkable crime. Culture and political presentation by the government enforce that view. It's sort of like when soldiers are told, "If the enemy captures you, they will torture rape and humiliate you and then kill you horribly letting none live." Doesn't matter if its true or not, that's the perception and people act on it. in Kusari its a centuries old, national perception and bonded to millenia old traditions.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - Zelot - 05-27-2008
' Wrote:Convenient that you left out the first several minutes of the encounter.
If you yourself say there were several mins of conversation before this, then what are you complaining about? Oh yeah, it's that I didnt let you go, or buy your story. We had a 7 to 10 min encounter, and I stayed in char the whole time, so why don't you take your crying about being destroyed to someone else, because I don't care what you have to say at this point, you have lost all weight I might have given to your opinion when you made this whole forum think the only thing I said to you was 5 million or die, which is a complete lie. Yes one of my sentences was "5 million or your life" but that was among many other sentiences of RP that I said to you. Hmmm..... convenient how you left all that out when you came here to complain that you got blown up. Grow up and stop trying to smear peoples names, you need you werent safe in Kusari so get the hell over it.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - globalplayer-svk - 05-27-2008
' Wrote:Exactly these words: "5 million or your life"
Then he raised it to "6 million or your life" after I said he was a slave to the hogosha dogs.
the screens show something others tenacity...
next time firs think, then attack on someone on forums ok ?
or we all can attack you for crap rp when you say that you work as junekr for kusari? that you will suply them ? is that logic ? for me no....
The next time i see a '5m or die' - Tenacity - 05-27-2008
As I said, the incident between myself and the AFA spurred the post, but it wasnt about that incident alone.
This is meant for ALL the traders and pirates out there that dont put any effort into their RP.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - globalplayer-svk - 05-27-2008
so why you dont say it in your posts before ??? that is marker for all ?
or you think people can know that it is marker for all when you type this:
on a side note, I did not pay the idiot AFA that tried to pirate me, I gave him a good 10 minute run around of kyushu before dying, and only ended up losing about 1.5 million credits worth of ammo and cargo, and a few system jumps worth of time, by dying.
ot this:
and on a related note:
I'm offering the GC up to 1000 units of cardamine a peice for the repeated deaths of [AFA]Ze'ev-Barak
Likewise, I'll bring the dragons whatever they need at the time; deuterium or engine components, weapons, etc.
or this:
and by the way, the only thing i heard out of him other than "5m or your life" was "The hogosha dont like junkers, and I'm allied with them".
And the whole time, I was chatting In-RP claiming that, despite my status as a junker, I had just smuggled 3500 units of deuterium through bretonia to help the kusari navy in their current war, and that his destroying me would actually be harming the state he claims to work for.
Didnt change his mind, he kept trying to tax and eventually killed me for it. Guess you cant expect a bunch of farmers to have brains anyways.
that are only attacks to zelots roleplay...
The next time i see a '5m or die' - Tenacity - 05-27-2008
Quote:so why you dont say it in your posts before ??? that is marker for all ?
I did, near the top of page 4:
Quote:And another thing... the topic is getting a little off topic, this post may have been spurred by the AFA's bad acting, but it's aimed at ALL the lazy pirates out there, not just him. This was not meant to become a flaming by forum.
The next time i see a '5m or die' - kindred - 05-27-2008
Tenacity cut your engines, 4mil or die. You have 10 seconds to initiate transfer request. 10 9 8 7 6 *BOOM*
The next time i see a '5m or die' - Tenacity - 05-27-2008
' Wrote:Tenacity cut your engines, 4mil or die. You have 10 seconds to initiate transfer request. 10 9 8 7 6 *BOOM*
Nevar :D