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SCRA Faction Feedback - MrCynical - 10-27-2008
What exactly is the situation regarding Corsairs and O52? The infocard for Cape Verde says that it is a stopping-off point for Corsairs travelling between O-5 and O-49 (I'm already aware of the issue regarding it showing as Zoner when it's actually SCRA), which seems inconsistent with it being a guard system.
Are the SCRA and Corsairs allied (to the extent of allowing access to O52) or is O52 more of a 'home system' (in the same way the Corsairs claim ownership of Gamma although their Server-Rules-Guardsystem is Omi-91)? Just trying to understand how the SCRA relates to Corsairs since I've yet to encounter any of your people in space (timezones) but probably will at some point as I pirate in the Omegas.
SCRA Faction Feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 10-27-2008
This is a problem, and should hopefully be redressed.
SCRA Faction Feedback - horvat - 10-27-2008
O52 is SCRA System as Verde is SCRA station although it writes Zoner base. That will be changed in 4,85, SCRA and Corsairs are in war and if you encounter anyone from SCRA during your pirate run you will probably end up with your ship blown to pieces. Also O52 is considered Guard system so noone is allowed in there except SCRA if i wrote something wrong im sure my commanders will correct me. There is no relation between SCRA and Corsairs except sounds of our guns.
SCRA Faction Feedback - MrCynical - 10-27-2008
OK, out of date infocard, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.
EDIT: So RAHF tagged ships are the SCRA? I have actually seen you folks a few times, assumed they were Hessians although I gather from Bloodsword's sig that it actually means Red Army Heavy Fighter :$.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Jinx - 10-27-2008
good explanations there. - i gotto admit, i have probably put the SCRA too much into a retro USSR/post cold war category.
but that was probably also the problem about it. - a certain lack of a general viewpoint. - a clear consensus of what is to be expected from such a faction. - anyway, i see it all clearer now - and that way, it does make sense. ( reading the faction explanation - which is not exactly undetailed reveals a lot - but when you re prejudice about the SCRA=USSR/communism thing - you can put a lot of the arguments there into that category without thinking too much. - and its a very convenient way to consider the faction then )
( gotto clear up - i never ever thought of the reply as offending or anything - just literally surprising )
so - some REAL feedback though ....
the scra is .... to be exact .... an insignificant factor in sirius, when it could justify to be a much greater one. - fact is that you can probably ask random people around the core, and they will not know who the SCRA are. - if the current scra was the order, it would be a perfect state of being, cause the order is a secret organization. ( mind you.... i am sure that half the people wouldn t know who the Bs| are either... but i hate to argue against my own arguments ) - is there a way to install more propaganda?
it does not need ( or at least i hope that on a RP server, it doesn t need ) a fleet of warships to catch someones attention - but a subtle omnipresence all throughout sirius would be nice. something that is executed by the more convincing junker players. - they are around, they are "doing their stuff". of course, the SCRA as it is would be a pvp magnet - but it would be nice to have a more part of the coalition that was more focussed on - well,... in need for a better word.... public relations. ( i know the term does not catch what i mean.... cause the SCRA will not want to make PR - think of it as something like PR, but subtle. - something like....
when people are unhappy, they should not form up their own "group of unhappy workers" but there should be some thought in everyones back like ".... the coalition would do things better!" - a silent support.
leaves the question - how can something like that be RPed and experienced on our server )
SCRA Faction Feedback - MrCynical - 10-27-2008
' Wrote:the SCRA as it is would be a pvp magnet - but it would be nice to have a more part of the coalition that was more focussed on - well,... in need for a better word.... public relations. ( i know the term does not catch what i mean.... cause the SCRA will not want to make PR - think of it as something like PR, but subtle. - something like....
when people are unhappy, they should not form up their own "group of unhappy workers" but there should be some thought in everyones back like ".... the coalition would do things better!" - a silent support.
Propaganda, something like the KGB/GRU efforts described on this page maybe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in...opaganda_abroad
SCRA Faction Feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 10-27-2008
Some decent ideas indeed.
Most public relations tend to be aimed at groups such as Bundschuh, Hessians and Unioners, and to a lesser extent Corsairs, LWB, Golden Chrysanthemums and similar.
SCRA Faction Feedback - cmfalconer - 10-27-2008
There have been propaganda missions to all core systems, but when all you see in response is "AAAHHH, XENO TERRORISTS!" and "What's an RAB?" and "Lulz, you noob, xeno aren't in New Berlin", and other such drivel from the masses, you tend to not to try that hard in the long run.
And don't get me started with NY. Most gets lost in the massive text-wall that is that system's chat.
As for forum propaganda, it's been done as well. Some very good lines have been put up by several members, be it an old socialist posters from the 50's, small stories of recruits, or the ubiquitous "we want you to join our cause" recruitment messages, they're on here, but again get lost in the melee that is this HUGE forum for discovery. A product of it's own success.
I agree that the faction status page is a bit long, but it is full of information as well. The trouble is getting those who don't know about us to read this information.
Also added is that many members are either on military duty or are busily working on additional content for the 4.85 mod release. I haven't been on in weeks because of it and other things.
And we're kinda picky about who we let in because of our ID being generally a terrorist ID with unlimited ZOI, we have to be careful it doesn't get abused. So we are not the giant group the Outcasts and Corsairs and LN are. NOT to say these groups aren't picky about who they have, but our ID is also not allowed for indies, we dont have 3+ different factions for our selves, and other issues.
It's my belief that with the advent of the next mod version, if everything goes well, a large recruitment drive and several campaigns will then be initiated to again assert the SCRA's role in the Sirius, and Discovery, community.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Koolmo - 11-02-2008
' Wrote:Well, having our LFs called 'Ralf' didn't cut it, and having our foes know what class of ship was coming wasn't great either.
We decided to change it to the following...
SCRA|Pilot.Name for fighters and bombers.
SCRA|CPW-Shipname for gunboats and larger.
SCRA|CPS-Shipname for transports and non-combat ships.
'CPW' stands for Coalition Peoples' Warship.
'CPS' stands for Coalition Peoples' Ship.
That is all.
As you can see here, we've changed the tag system for the SCRA, as I was tied of people asking "What RAHF faction does", and having a light fighter called RALF was just silly. Also, now you can't tell what kind of ships we're flying.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Derkylos - 11-06-2008
Hmm, my first encounter with the SCRA in space today...and we got wiped out :$ Even numbers, us with a gunboat and all...and only me left at the end.
Well, as far as the actual engagement went, I wasn't there for the very start, so i missed out on the lead up. As usual, my contribution to the engagement consisted of "CD spam" and "look, I hit you with a deb shot, woot", and I dont really have any comments there.
The aftermath...well, good and bad. Bad is that you chased me half way from Cardiff to the NL jumpgate. I know Ares explained that you get chased like that, but I would have loved to see some closing RP from you...much more fun than dodging bullets on my end (I will admit i thought "damn PvP whores, all they want is a kill message" at points). Also, I feel that persuit for kilometers across a system is a tad OORP, unless you are specifically after that character (bounty), or the continued presence of said target is dangerous to your faction as a whole...not really the case when you are on the offensive. However, the good bit was when Ares PMed me afterwards and we had a quick OORP chat. I know it's a RP server and all, but doing this sort of thing after a fight can ease any tensions, and remind both sides that we are only here for fun, and, of course, you can complement the other side on any good tactics they used, and condole them for lag issues etc.
And, finally (damn...this is a long post...oh well), I'd like to comment on a few things. First, the faction tag rethink-looks better now when you look at the online list and everyones a "SCRA" rather than there being "RAHF"s, "RAB"s and "RALF"s (:lol:). Also, with reguards to the tag...I know you are forced to work within the bounds of what we have here, but Xeno definitely dosn't feel right...Xenos are against any interaction with foreign civilizations...and you guys are as foreign as it gets! Here's hoping you get a SCRA faction soon. Will also help clear up the O-52 route, as I was not aware that it was your system at first.
All in all, I feel that your faction is the best "imported" faction, as It really suits the feel of FL. Ok, you had a leg up due to the Starlancer story, but still...good work!