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RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Binski - 03-18-2014
Well keep in mind that Freelancer is a video game, and it started out mainly as a single player game with an OK multiplayer mode. The Disco mods expanded upon the original version in many great ways. The thing is, most players seek the game for gaming experience, not roleplay. I never roleplayed until I came here. It is fun, but its also something you fit into to keep the ball rolling. The way the game is laid out, RP makes sense, else there's a lack of respect to the environment it tries to recreate. But roleplay should be seen as a way to play the game so that it makes sense with continuity, not as the purpose of playing. So I see roleplay as a practical way to enjoy playing and getting into it. If you only play to roleplay, and can't get satisfaction because some people want good gaming experience over RP (but rp so as not to completely ditch the spirit of things) then I believe Dungeons and Dragons still exists for you. When you think of it like that, just remember roleplay is based around the game, not the other way around, cuz otherwise its just a bunch of people sitting around on computers making stuff up.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - .Gypsy. - 03-18-2014
(03-18-2014, 05:32 AM)|nfrared Wrote: It's actually worse than this. ............
Remind me to buy you a drink |nfrared.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Sol - 03-18-2014
Yes, circlejerk and veteran things are quite annoying. Also, "I want special tooooys or I quit~!" thing is annoying.
In my opinion, nobody should get special treatment, and there shouldn't be a possibility of this happening in the first place.
No special toys for anyone. No SRPs. You all eventually think you are special people for having such things, and the ones who don't have them special toys aspire to have them to feel special like those special people eventually. Such ego everywhere, such ambition, such shameful display.
I hate you people.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Scumbag - 03-18-2014
As we can see, there are people who take this game and especially the politics around it, very very seriously.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Sol - 03-18-2014
As if life is more important than THIS.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Govedo13 - 03-18-2014
The truth is that RP died more or less with the Tech-chart. It was shitty without it, now it is shitty with it.
I guess that tech-chart should stay but official factions should get Free 1-2 SRP IDs per faction. They could use then this to RP with other factions based on in-game actions to develop the said ships. Let this be capital ships that require certain amount of resources to build combined with certain RP-backstories.
Nerf the current free for all Caps. Introduce Mk2 caps with the same models that need to be made in POBs. Introduce MK2 Cap guns- POB made as well. Add huge chance to loose the Mk2 stuff upon death. Make sure that certain factions keep certain resources that one would need so the people have things to bargain and RP for.
(03-17-2014, 10:04 PM)ryoken Wrote: To much attitude towards others that want to play "FREELANCER"None stops you to play freelancer. There is huge amount of civilian ships and freelancer IDs that allow it without any particular restrictions.
However if you are part of something like Navy it is logical to follow the command structure of the thing right? You cannot be freelancer officer of the liberty navy. The existence of "inide" capital ships is idiotic softly said.
And here the Rabbit gets out of the hat. If you does not like lets say Liberty Navy rules and stuff, apply for SRP for rogue Liberty Navy Capital ship. Strike in-RP deals with the unlawful factions around Liberty in order to have some safe docking place etc etc.
At the end you would have some deeply RPed character and ship that would be known around the place.
I dunno if you remember the old Corsair-Reaver RP - guns for kills. Factions should also get 3-5 Associate Freelancer IDs. Lets say that the said IDs should not have any nerf on the said faction tech but should also include line that the ID owner is not allowed to shoot the said faction while using the ID.
SRPs now are not special. They were in 4.85. Now it is quite easy to get one without having any skypefriends. Check the list and you would see some random people getting stuff. People that are not so known around and have not so much skypefriends. Also with the proposed system above every faction would be able to grant half-SRP.
Bottom line there is little to no intensive to write high-level RP stories and create deeply RPed characters and ships if you cannot be rewarded with in-game items for doing so. You would never have deeply RPed server when everyone and his dog can buy everything after investing several hours afk trading. Also with the current rates soon there would be no server at all.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - ryoken - 03-18-2014
(03-18-2014, 06:29 AM)Sol Wrote: Yes, circlejerk and veteran things are quite annoying. Also, "I want special tooooys or I quit~!" thing is annoying.
In my opinion, nobody should get special treatment, and there shouldn't be a possibility of this happening in the first place.
No special toys for anyone. No SRPs. You all eventually think you are special people for having such things, and the ones who don't have them special toys aspire to have them to feel special like those special people eventually. Such ego everywhere, such ambition, such shameful display.
I hate you people.
Bang on mate.
No one person on this server should have anything others cannot also have. A player is a player, and all should be equal, and have the same toys available to all.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Eduard - 03-18-2014
(03-18-2014, 12:02 PM)ryoken Wrote:(03-18-2014, 06:29 AM)Sol Wrote: Yes, circlejerk and veteran things are quite annoying. Also, "I want special tooooys or I quit~!" thing is annoying.
In my opinion, nobody should get special treatment, and there shouldn't be a possibility of this happening in the first place.
No special toys for anyone. No SRPs. You all eventually think you are special people for having such things, and the ones who don't have them special toys aspire to have them to feel special like those special people eventually. Such ego everywhere, such ambition, such shameful display.
I hate you people.
Bang on mate.
No one person on this server should have anything others cannot also have. A player is a player, and all should be equal, and have the same toys available to all.
And how do we reward RP effort and skill as well as all the other quality traits we'd all want to see in players?
By doing this we also put the one who truly RPs and tries to be a good, fair player on the same level as the downright, appalling jerk which in turn... would discourage the good player from remaining good, because, hell, why should he stay in a place/community where he isn't differentiated from the jerk?
Maybe the examples are not the right ones, but I want to say that through rewards, we can promote and encourage the display of a certain behaviour or an approach we want to see. The only problem lies in the execution and implementation.
I wouldn't want to have all my efforts and ambitions castrated murderously and see myself pitted at the same level as everyone else whereas all my efforts and attempts at providing entertaining encounters are not taken into consideration.
What is wrong with ambition anyway? It prevents us from festering into a regressive society of hedonist procrastinators.
This is all too left-winged for my tastes.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Sol - 03-18-2014
It's philosophical.
http://www.daoisopen.com/ZZ23.html
"The basis of their debates was comparable to chiseling out holes in a wall then filling them in with a thick hedge, sorting through which hairs needed to be combed, and counting out how many grains of rice to cook. How could they have been so superficial as to believe that would be enough to benefit society! If those who are virtuous are promoted, then people will stomp each other down in an effort to get there. If those who are intelligent are given appointments, then people will steal knowledge from each other. One who makes these types of assessments would never be able to sort through humanity. People get so involved in trying to gain personal benefits that a son would kill his father and a servant would kill his master. They would think it's perfectly fine to steal in broad daylight and tunnel through the walls of a house in the afternoon. I'm telling you that this great state of chaos had to have started with Yao and Shun, and the branches growing from it will extend for thousands of generations. After a thousand generations there will still be people who view each other as food."
It is quite natural when there are benefits to gain such as these that make people jealous, there is a lot of discontention.
You either stop valuing these things so much as 'prizes' for your 'good RP' like you stated, and doing whatever it takes to gain them like this to the point it becomes an achievement to strive for to feel good about yourselves, or you'll have these debates forever.
Do RP for the sake of RPing, have fun doing it. You be a good player because it will be more fun for you, and you'll really benefit from a good community. All of you. Do not expect toys to be given to you, and do not think that your RP is worthy enough for such toys all the time.
RE: The "Seriousness" level of RP these days - Thyrzul - 03-18-2014
(03-18-2014, 12:02 PM)ryoken Wrote: Bang on mate.
No one person on this server should have anything others cannot also have. A player is a player, and all should be equal, and have the same toys available to all.
Hell yea, straight on communism. Like, there are those shiny toys others put a lot of effort into RP in order to get, why shouldn't I get them for free? I am a player too, just like everybody else...