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Pirate: - Disparagess - 09-01-2010

Quote:When catching your pirates in house systems just say "Sir, your vessels ID signature is that of a known pirate vessel, stand down or we will open fire".

And what justifies this opening of fire on this pirate vessel? It is a person's life you know.


Pirate: - Primitive - 09-01-2010

You can always devote more to RP, if he's sitting on the lane give him fine of 300k for disrupting the traffic or such, or as LPI do, you tail light is broken and things like that..I mean how hard can it be, in the best case tell him to go away and fine him if he doesn't.....

People it's RP server, ofc you know he is a pirate and he knows your a military/police officer but we know how it ends, unlawful either does or obey..and that's how it should be


Pirate: - Coin - 09-01-2010

he has the option of standing down... and once he has surrendered, there's very little that they can actually do, cos they have made an rp demand, and now cannot shoot him


Pirate: - Baltar - 09-02-2010

' Wrote:No need to apologise there Baltar. Specifically exception 'a' I believe. 'House space'.
Now assuming that you were an LN capital vessel (in the example given), you have the right, even if he's a freighter/transport to vaporize him. If you are not in the official faction but have a gunboat or smaller, you can still vaporize him, assuming RP rules are followed.
Remember that it was stated:
It's the 'House space' that made the difference regarding the capital ship vs transport/freighter question. If it's not 'your House space', don't do it.
I think thats right anyway...

Yes based on the rules ... ONLY those with [LN] tags are allowed to use ships larger than gunboats to take out freighters and transports. All those LNS tagged vessels (and other non-[LN]) are NOT allowed to attack freighters and transports. Same goes with the "official" factions of the other houses. In NON-house systems ... NOBODY is allowed to attack a transport or freighter in anything larger than a gunboat. So if an [LN] tagged dreadnought chases a Rogue Bactrian (freighter) from Colorado to Galileo, the [LN] dreadnought would have to cease their attack on said Rogue inside Galileo space. So you are correct ... basically exception "a" ONLY applies within the borders of that particular house. And in case there's any question as to the boundaries of each house ... check out the very last post in the rulebook. Guard systems are also a bit of an exception.

ANYONE flying a gunboat or smaller can take out anyone else (if they actually have the skills that is). The limitations are with regards to ships larger than gunboats attacking freighters and transports.



Pirate: - sovereign - 09-02-2010

' Wrote:Yes based on the rules ... ONLY those with [LN] tags are allowed to use ships larger than gunboats to take out freighters and transports. All those LNS tagged vessels (and other non-[LN]) are NOT allowed to attack freighters and transports. Same goes with the "official" factions of the other houses. In NON-house systems ... NOBODY is allowed to attack a transport or freighter in anything larger than a gunboat. So if an [LN] tagged dreadnought chases a Rogue Bactrian (freighter) from Colorado to Galileo, the [LN] dreadnought would have to cease their attack on said Rogue inside Galileo space. So you are correct ... basically exception "a" ONLY applies within the borders of that particular house. And in case there's any question as to the boundaries of each house ... check out the very last post in the rulebook. Guard systems are also a bit of an exception.

ANYONE flying a gunboat or smaller can take out anyone else (if they actually have the skills that is). The limitations are with regards to ships larger than gunboats attacking freighters and transports.

Quote:6.7 Attacking freighters, transports, liners or demanding cargo from the same is not allowed for cruisers and battleships.

Exceptions to this rule are:

a) Official faction tagged house ships in their respective house space ONLY.
b) Terrorist, Nomad, Wild, Phantom ID players;
c) LSF or Liberty Navy Guard vessels operating within Zone 21 or Alaska;
d) Order Guard vessels operating within Alaska or Omicron Minor;
<snip>

Traders whom are attacked in these areas may be pursued and destroyed beyond them.

If there's any questions on if you're allowed to keep shooting at someone once you've started, check out the actual rule in question before making bold pronouncements.

Also, note the other few exceptions I left in there. Yes, the RNC-Heilige.Eins can blow up your miner (your fault for not paying attention to your scanners). Yes, if you're in Alaska, you're going to get pwned five ways to Sunday.

Also, from the laws of Liberty:

Quote:The possession of some small ships is illegal in Liberty. Small ships are classified as gunboats or anything below such as freighters and fighters. This most commonly applies to Freelancers and Mercenaries. The list is as follows:

Rheinland ships (e.g. Wraith).
Rheinland criminal ships (e.g. Arbeiter).
Outcast ships (e.g. Tridente).
Corsair ships (e.g. Gladiator).
Pirate ships (e.g. Barghest).
Lane Hacker ships (e.g. Bayonet).
Order ships (e.g. Nephthys).
Nomad ships.
GRN ships.



Pilots flying these must either exit the house of Liberty immediately by the route specified by the officer on duty or turn the ship in for research or destruction purposes at the nearest station able to provide a replacement ship. Any resistance will result in the ship being destroyed.

So yeah, they can just shoot you for the ship, most of the time. And Liberty is the nice house. (Bretonia would normally top them, but they declared martial law in Dublin and Leeds.)


Pirate: - Baltar - 09-02-2010

@ Sovereign: Keep in mind that "faction law" does not trump "server rules." Just because your faction creates laws that say (for instance) that you can kill anything in Alaska doesn't mean an LNS lolcap can blow up a freighter. Alaska is NOT a guard system. Bottom line if you wanna blow up transports and freighters, do it in a gunboat unless you are one of the "official" faction members with the appropriate tag in front of your name.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that factions do not own the server ... let the indies enjoy the game as well. Not everyone here is a member of a faction and not everyone here knows EVERYTHING about EVERY faction nor their laws. Show a bit of restraint now and then people.