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Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Daedric - 10-17-2011
I'm not sure how the restrictions placed upon other organizations are any different than those placed upon we Zoners. You continue to group us together and claim we are one group, when we've already said that isn't the case. The restriction is merely one delegate per organization. As each Freeport is its own entity and not part of some larger organization there is no violation of said restriction if each station sends a envoy. Merely you applying a label to a group of people in order to censor their representation for whatever reason.
You're asking for the representation of other peoples be limited while not offering to limit your own representation. What percentage of the population of Sirius does the IND make up? I'd guess far less than 1%, yet you're demanding that a larger group be limited to the same number of delegates as your corporation. That strikes me as self serving. This is a structured summit in which there will be moderation, this means it cannot be turned into a Zoner focused summit unless the majority present wish it to be. I have no desire to have such a meeting, I'm more interested in how the items on the agenda will affect Omicron Supply Industries directly and indirectly. I do think it would be a wise move to tier the delegation into groups; one group of delegates who've the right to address the delegation and another who've to be given the floor by a delegate from the first group in order to have their voice heard by the delegation. Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - theenclave - 10-17-2011 +++Incoming Transmission+++
Dear Miss Allen+++Location: Eden Colony, Gran Canaria+++ +++ Security: High+++ I must concur with the representative of Sirius Robotics. Our dealings with the Colonial Republic are not as extensive, however if they are isolationist surely our objective ought to be to bring them into the fold. Summits are about peaceful co-operation surely it is wrong to exclude such a group. Also considering the Gallian question and their experience of them, surely their input would be invaluable. I would also like to argue, that treating the Zoners as a Homogeneous entity, is akin to treating all Sirians in the same manner. Yours Curate Nathan Ward. +++Transmission Terminated+++
Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Malaclypse 666 - 10-17-2011 -= From the Kiva =-
Meh. As my good friend and old partner Reggie exhorted, I Siriusly doubt that our brother and sister Zoners are in "collusion". "We must all stick apart." If some "enlightened" folk seem to feel that our presence would carry the foul stench of conspiracy with it, might i suggest that we all boycott this silly chinwag, stay home, and watch a decent holo-soap instead. Now, there's a conspiracy for you to be paranoid about! I would close with my recent refrain of "Happy Verwirrung!", but perhaps we should let our paranoid detractors deal with that mackaral by themselves when it smacks them across the face. Yours in Eris, Malaclypse Former Chairman of the <strike>Conspiracy</strike> Council of Zoners Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Ophiuchi - 10-18-2011 Comm ID: Waverly, Port Canaria Chairman Allen, Prospective Delegates, Good people of Sirius: While I dearly love my old friend Malaclypse, I must express reservations about his suggestion for a boycott. I believe that such a response would not serve the interests, the reputation, nor the future needs of the Zoner Community. I notice that our Episkopos did not mention receiving this advice through Our Lady Eris. If it were, I would be inclined to comply, both as a Discordian, and as an Official of the Temporary Autonomous Zoners. Therefore, with a free conscience, I would like to offer the Chairman and Delegates a counterproposal. I propose that the Zoner Community be allowed two Delegates, one from the recognized Zoner Factions, and one from the Independent Freeport Administrations. I feel that this compromise would ease the paranoia of certain individuals, while still adequately representing the Zoner population of the Sector. I would further propose that Zoners hold a separate Caucus as soon as possible, for the purpose of nominating and electing the two Delegates to this Summit. (I will briefly say that I feel Victor Cross of OSI would be the best candidate for Faction Delegate, chiefly due to his experience with one of the most "pressing" Agenda issues. To wit, the Gallians. I believe that his experience in dealing with the Royal family of Gallia, and other groups therein, would make him the best choice for the position.) I believe that this compromise would answer the concerns of all Delegates, and increase the chances for a succesful and productive Summit. Thank you for your time. Reg Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - lousal - 10-18-2011 ::::: transmission opened ::::: From: James Ferguson, (]o[) Location: Freeport XV, Omicron 74 Honored Ladies and Gentlemen, the current discussion is proving those having concerns about a Zoner participation right. There is absolutely no reason to make the preparations of this summit a new political stage for internal Zoner matters. In fact, the Omicroners are very interested to meet Non-Zoners on this occasion. We have selected our envoy, Dankien Moebus, and are willing to attend on behalf of the Zoners living in the Omicrons. Although we certainly do not believe that any of our dearest matters might have a greater impact on the important items discussed during this summit, we gladly renounce from being represented by other Zoners, and the least by some OSI turncoats. We are looking forward to a constructive meeting addressing economical aspects in and around the Omicrons. Best regards, James Ferguson ::::: transmission closed ::::: Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Skullz - 10-18-2011 -Incomming Transmission-
-Orbital Spa & Cruise- -Kim Allen- To: All recipents
Good afternoon. I have read all your arguements now. I will start by saying that I am not treating Zoners Differently. Interspace Commerce is sending two delegates. One repertsentative of the company as a whole, whilst the other is acting as a repersentative for Waterloo base. So I have no idea where you are getting some of the points that you are argueing. The three main zoner factions are permitted one delegate to repersent themselves as a faction each. Then those Base Administrators of Freeports with in the Houses or upon their Borders may also send a delegate. Bowex repersentation can also hold two repersentatives as they're two Factions belonging to that line of work. Kusari can send a Delegate from its government, Kusari Naval Forces, Kusari State Police and other organisations and companies that are with in Kusari itself. Thus under the fact's shown I see no reason in restricting Zoner Repersentatives. And I would like to point out this Summit is for those that are with in Sirius, whom operate legally, and have a major effect with in it. Be that by trade, protection, legal council and influence. Those that wish to boycot will only be showing that they wish Sirius to become something that our Forfathers did not want to happen. Why that is, is because you will be openly saying that difference is a reason to not co-operate. Which is the very reason why our ancenstors came here, to co-operate because what is little known before we came here to Sirius the very reason why we left our old home was because it began as no co-operation with others that had different views, which ended in outright war. So bear that in mind. To: Deputy Chief Jack Bauer
Your approval has been noted. I will look forward to seeing you at the Summit. To: Colonel Stenka Razin
Since the SCRA are considered terrorists, no. You are not welcome at the Summit. To: Secretary General Richard Connors, Jaian Ki and Nathan Ward.
I have never seen a Colonial in my life. I have also never heard of a Colonial trade ship. So how can they prove they are rich without any ships being seen with in Sirius. Having a military force is all and well, but proves nothing other than you have capable fighters. Next I would also say, it is the Zoners whom have control of the deuterium markets in Sirius. And that the Zoners also have an extremely large sourec of it. Since the Colonial's have not shown anything of their capability, nor are widely known in Sirius they are then not considered as a Sirian for access to the Sirius Summit. The two Factions that you said doesn't even gain them access to the Summit either. The Omicroners trade with them and that is it. The Mollys are a terrorist organisation. And as it seems to be open knowledge to you further makes me not to want someone who openly supports a terrorist organisation any where near the Summit. So all in all, I do not see how the Colonials contribute to Sirius other then being poor, having no trade with several Sirius Factions, having no alliances with any main stream House, and that they supporting terrorists. Lastly I will remind you that if you wish to boycot the Summit, then you are only showing that difference means not to co-operate. And that you wish war to ravage Sirius unlike what our Forfathers want, of which being a nice civilized place where we solve our differences by talking. Signed
Kim Allen Confirmed Attendee's
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Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Arthur - 10-18-2011 To: This Channel Subject: - To whom it may concern,
Respectfully,Interspace Commerce will be represented by myself and only by myself. That is one person. Please do not spread false information on such delicate matter. David Mahone, Interspace Commerce Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - SpaceTime - 10-18-2011 [color=#FFFFFF]Mr Allen, it seems that you are making up rules which suit your interests and not those of the Summit. Therefore, until further notice, the Independent Miners Guild won't participate in this meeting. On behalf of the Board, Irene Thompson Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - theenclave - 10-18-2011 +++Incoming Transmission+++
Dear Miss Allen+++Location: Eden Colony, Gran Canaria+++ +++ Security: High+++ I speak for the Council, in saying we have no intention of boycotting the summit. I have promised to be there and I will fulfil my promise. We however object to the dismissal of the Colonial Republic, in such a high handed manner. We in many ways are a small and obscure group in comparison to the sprawling Houses of Sirius, we are even small in comparison to some of their corporations. I dare say that many Sirians do not know us. So surely we are not by your definition 'Sirian'. I shall say this final word on the matter, and then I will drop my discussion of the Colonial Republic. You make reference to 'forefathers' and their wish for peace and co-operation and the solving of disputes by talking. I fail to see how this desire can be facilitated by exclusion of a group such as the Colonial Republic. Summits are about bringing the disparate groups of Sirius together, turning those away who come peacefully to engage us in discussion seems hypocritical. We will still attend the Summit, but merely wish to make clear our disappointment with your decision. We hope in future meetings this action will be reconsidered. Yours in hope for peace, Curate Nathan Ward. +++Transmission Terminated+++
Sirius 818 A.S. Summit - Skullz - 10-18-2011 -Incomming Transmission-
-Orbital Spa & Cruise- -Kim Allen- To: David Mahone
So it is not true that your employee at Waterloo station is not attending the Summit? If that is the case I will now remove that Attendee from the list that I hold. To: Brain Thompson of Independant Miners Guild
Kim denotes a female name. I am not making the rules to suit myself. They are to suit the Summit. The rules are based on historical references of similiar Summits. If you have a problem with historical Summits and this Summit that Orbital Spa and Cruise will be hosting then I think you should get out of politics as soon as you can.To: Nathan Ward
IO am sorry to dissapoint yourself. However please understand I based my decision based on the information the Colonials have given myself and information further provided. Those that openly support or perform Terrorism will not be allowed in the Summit. It has never been policy to talk with terrorists or support terrorsits by many with in Sirius. Nor do they have any obvious trade. By that I mean actaul transports performing trade missions with other Sirian Corporations or Houses with in Sirius. With those above it only shows that they are willing to disrupt more than contribute as a whole to Sirius. Signed
Kim Allen -Transmission Terminated-
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