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RE: Police is not helping - Hero4Hire - 02-06-2013
(02-02-2013, 03:54 AM)BloodTree Wrote: Is it possible change roles of ID?
I see that police/military of any faction are really not helping any trader they more like busy with asking tax for i don`t know what and why. For me police are same as pirate but just in uniforms.
Well if pirate are attacking trade ships with bigger ship like destroyer, battlecruiser, Battleship or with large groups small ships no one is coming for help.
I wan`t to know why with BHG core ID large ships may not enter in systems containing jumpgate. I see that really wrong and unfair.
I think there is a lot of players with trade ships who feel that small ships can`t defend them against horde of pirate. And police is not helping at all.
In my experience the LPI dont help againt criminals at all, at least not against most of them. They prefer to RP as "corrupt". Official LN are hardly ever on, and when they are they mostly spend their time explaining why it wouldnt be fair to kill the pirate or why this and this indy navy are very bad people. Earlier today I saw LPI basically pirate an indy carrier for 10 million credits, because they thought him staying 1k from Manhattan docking ring is "blocking the traffic" and he needed to pay a fine for havong been there. Awesome RP, I know.
If you need help, turn to an indy navy who are mostly willing to help but not always the most experienced of pilots, or freelancers and bounty hunters, who are in average a bit more skilled but cost a little bit of money sometimes.
RE: Police is not helping - Crackpunch - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 06:04 AM)Hero4Hire Wrote: If you need help, turn to an indy navy who are mostly willing to help but not always the most experienced of pilots, or freelancers and bounty hunters, who are in average a bit more skilled but cost a little bit of money sometimes.
Not getting enough business huh?
RE: Police is not helping - BloodTree - 02-06-2013
I have right to say what I think about it and here it is.
As poll tells us 41.46% of player vote that police is not helping and it`s huge % well I noticed that lot`s of voters are police. So it means that even bigger % say that police is not helping.
There is only house of military and police who don`t like big ships near. Look in NY if anyone enter with one large ship all Navy will come and ask it to leave or even shoot when at same time pirates do what ever they want and navy simple don`t care. It will be like 10 Navy BS will escort out one cruiser. With what Navy are really busy? I seen how they simple let pirate shoot down other and they just watch fight with her BS and talk about rules/own rules not server. I seen how BHG hunt pirate in california and Navy just chat with each other.
Why i am saying that police don`t help traders there are so lot Navy/police but it`s simple they are busy with something ells all the time.
Why Navy not like IMG cruiser miner ships it`s not agents server rules to enter in NY with them but they made own rules and play by them not servers.
Why you guys afraid from one cruiser/BS it`s that much? Where is hospitality, civility and welcome for guest.
Don`t tell me about RL it`s not same it`s only game witch must bring fun.
Do anyone remember old times where was no so much rule limits it was better don`t you think?
I am again saying make rules simple, rules that anyone can understand!
There are two kind rules server and player faction rules and it`s not same why other how to play and learn each faction rules when there are server rules already for anyone. And lot`s of players confusing because of it.
I do not know why you guys say about me thous thing if you don`t even know who i am in game!
Maybe i even play with pirate and police you can`t know that!
RE: Police is not helping - Sanguines - 02-06-2013
You complain about navy, but realise this: The Navy and Police are not the same thing.
Criminals off the book, pirates, etc, are police bisenuss. Navy focuses more on war and operations.
Some of us actually serious roleplay too, and this is the sole reason I do not generally help traders on my navy char, because I play my char serious.
RE: Police is not helping - Remilia Scarlet - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 10:26 AM)Sanguines Wrote: You complain about navy, but realise this: The Navy and Police are not the same thing.
Criminals off the book, pirates, etc, are police bisenuss. Navy focuses more on war and operations.
Some of us actually serious roleplay too, and this is the sole reason I do not generally help traders on my navy char, because I play my char serious.
SRSLY
RLY, GUAIS
SRSLY?
RE: Police is not helping - Mercarryn - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 05:27 AM)latos Wrote: Heres my two cents, having lead a police faction for a little while.
There are no police, and when there are police, they're either independents or under appreciated faction members who don't get the attention they deserve. There are too many pirates and we get tired of being killed or constantly engaged 'for lulz'. Believe it or not, the people who want to roleplay get bored of 'police prepur 2 dai.' type encounters. Or traders messaging us 'pyruts in <insert misspelled system name here> plz halp.'. It's tiresome and boring.
Police factions are hard to do because members get bored being restricted by so many guidelines and a small ZoI.
We don't do escorts unless it's in the ZoI. We're 9/10 times outnumbered and outclassed, and personally I won't EVER help anyone who isn't nice about it.
Another thing I've noticed and this may just be for KSP, but whenever we actually gain an advantage, such as numbers or bigger ships in order to win a battle for once. We're slapped down and chastised by the community because we took the initiative.
so heres a summary:
1, We don't get paid
2, Too many pirates
3, Police Factions have a lot of guidelines
4, We're under appreciated
5, Navy factions USUALLY treat police factions with contempt/like they're lower class
5.1 , as a result nobody wants to be police and everyone wants to be Navy
6, Our ZoI is tiny.
7, Whenever we DO win, we're the bad guys.
To round it off: If you want to whine about no cops. Delete all your damned pirate characters and start enforcing the law. Come back in a week and tell me you enjoyed your time alone, out numbered, and outgunned. Hated by everyone who passes you.
Well, as RFP| member I can only say: Pretty much this, though I cannot agree with the last point. Technically we are treated like the Militaries`smaller brothers and whenever we use bigger ships for patrols the Military factions seem to be annoyed by this. As you can see, police factions are in a difficult situation due to inRP roles we sometimes are "forced" to keep to.
Therefore, like latos said: Set up a police char yourself and play it for some time, before you start complaining about us.
*EDIT*
@Sanguines: haha, that is a good one. Shall I tell you how often I see Rheinland military players patroling Rheinland for criminals? And I speak about both official and independent players.
RE: Police is not helping - Remilia Scarlet - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 05:27 AM)latos Wrote: 1, We don't get paid
2, Too many pirates
3, Police Factions have a lot of guidelines
4, We're under appreciated
5, Navy factions USUALLY treat police factions with contempt/like they're lower class
5.1 , as a result nobody wants to be police and everyone wants to be Navy
6, Our ZoI is tiny.
7, Whenever we DO win, we're the bad guys.
1. fair point, however if you're taking a role in a role play server then you have to play the role.
2. not really.
3. maybe, didn't noticed it being in LPI
4. perhaps, but it's not faction's fault. Police just don't seen much in action so no one really counts on police to arrive and help.
5. maybe
5.1 maybe
6. No, almost as big as navy, only few systems less for sure. (like hamburg for lns or so) all core systems and bordering systems are usually a fair game
7. no, that's not correct
RE: Police is not helping - Sanguines - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 10:32 AM)Mercarryn Wrote: @Sanguines: haha, that is a good one. Shall I tell you how often I see Rheinland military players patroling Rheinland for criminals? And I speak about both official and independent players.
And do I approve of that? No, But what can I do about it? This server is light RP.
Serious RPer or not, both types of RP are very welcome to discovery, just some people want light rp, and some people want serious RP.
There is nothing wrong with that.
I also seem under the impression that you dont know which post I was reffering to, it was the post right before mine.
RE: Police is not helping - BloodTree - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 10:26 AM)Sanguines Wrote: You complain about navy, but realise this: The Navy and Police are not the same thing.
Criminals off the book, pirates, etc, are police bisenuss. Navy focuses more on war and operations.
Some of us actually serious roleplay too, and this is the sole reason I do not generally help traders on my navy char, because I play my char serious.
What do that means? You live in your own imagination world?
That`s lame!
I already try play with police char and i can say police did not liked me and i did not liked them. I can not play like a fag!
With what exactly Liberty are busy there are like war status all armed and waiting to strike.
RE: Police is not helping - Sanguines - 02-06-2013
(02-06-2013, 10:51 AM)BloodTree Wrote: What do that means? You live in your own imagination world?
That`s lame!
I already try play with police char and i can say police did not liked me and i did not liked them. I can not play like a *****!
With what exactly Liberty are busy there are like war status all armed and waiting to strike.
Why are you butthurt? You're mad that you gotten pirated or something? I get pirated on IMG chars for alot more in one run then you would do in a day?
Pirates are just criminals. Itsn ot like theyr the main navy's interest.