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Coalition NPC faction - bluntpencil2001 - 08-13-2008
' Wrote:There is a major downside to your own rep and ID amigo; your diplomacy will be set in stone, and no longer dynamic. It'll only be able to be changed with Igiss' approval every mod release, as opposed to whenever the whim takes you, like it used to.
IE. If this was in place before you fell out with TBH, you couldn't have gone to war with the corsairs.
I support it, but be careful what you wish for.
Noted; another good point. However, Phantoms get by great in spite of this.
Coalition NPC faction - Koolmo - 08-14-2008
M'okay, here I am again... hope I wasn't too sarcastic last time, anyways:
Today there was a 5-man SCRA battlegroup running around, looking for some substantial enemy force to engage for the glory of the revolution. Having no luck in rheinland, we moved into the omegas, planning on regrouping in our system. Several members had to leave, (RL), and then there were three. We wander around in 52, then 50, then 49, just in time to watch one of the MM take a nosedive into a moon.
After laughing that off, we noticed a level 89 that had previously showed hostile in our HUDs in Omega 50. Suspecting he was planning on invading our system, we pursued, and cornered him in Omega 52.
On our station.
I'm not going to sling out a name, but he essentially sat there for 15 minutes until he got kicked for base-sitting, trying to convince us he was on some kind of diplomatic Zoner mission. We weren't buying it, and eventually convinced him that yes, we did own the base he was sitting on and the system he was in, and no, we weren't kidding when we told him to come out s we could cream him.
He comes out, we cream him, as the Coalition would do, if someone was in their base, and it's over there. No hard feelings, no recriminations, he honestly didn't know it was a coalition base....
That, my friends, is precisely the problem. Even if there are no NPC's, just bases and us, it's much, much better than nothing, because people like him will be able to tell, using their hud that we all trust so much, who we are and what we're doing. He is far from the first to make such a mistake, and if this doesn't change, he certainly won't be the last.
Thanks for reading, and to the guy ho was on our station: Not trying to single you out dude, and I won't ever be giving out your name, you just happened to serve as the perfect example for the point we're after here. Thanks for the service mate, good luck.
Coalition NPC faction - chopper - 08-14-2008
Quote:Next, Unalterable Diplomacy: We don't need alterable diplomacy. There are several factions that we should probably remain neutral to (BU, possibly Order and Unioners), but aside from that, we'll be hostile.
It doesn't make sense to me, that a Coalition faction, which wants everything dead and destroyed, is trying to be friendly with the Order, who happen to be the most lawful faction, protector of Sirius if I may say so?
How did this happen? What are their reasons to have you neutral?
I can see Corsairs neutral to you, but not the Order. The Order is just too well informed.
For the same reason, I can't see them selling you a Battleship. It makes no sense at all in my head.
I can see Corsairs selling you an Osiris, but not the Order.
Especially because Order doesn't make ships for export.
Corsairs might just do that, with all that raw materials lying on Crete.
Coalition NPC faction - Koolmo - 08-14-2008
The order are an anti-nomad, pro-humanity force, whereas the corsairs are the people we were trying to kill when some of us got to the sector. Our deal with the order was a deal, and can be briefly read about in the Disco-wiki about the SCRA. We were also sold that ship on the following conditions: We don't use it against the order, and if there is ever another seious nomad infestation or attack, we would use it, and all the rest of our power, to help stop it.
You're also reading the Coalition wong here. We don't want to kill everything, we want everything to change over, come to our side. We'll continue killing until the Alliance realizes it's pointless to fight it, of course, but as soon as they do, they'll be accepted into the Coalition Fold. Don't think of the Coalition as pirates or terrorists, think of them as another house that happens to have declared total war on all the other houses.
The Corsairs came off the sleeper ship Hispania, and the reason that ship never landed properly is US. We planted the charges and bailed out. The Corsairs still represent the Alliance to us, even though the rest of them have shunned them. They're still the enemy, although they were useful for a time. The Order are merely trying to protect Humanity as a whole, much the same as us, although they're trying to protect them from nomads and we're trying to protect them from the corrupt and capitalist Alliance.
See the difference?
EDIT: For Reference:
Quote:Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army
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The Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army, or SCRA for short, were originally formed by the descendants of Coalition spies and saboteurs aboard the Alliance sleepers. It is suspected that they may have been involved in the sabotage of the Hispania.
Today, they have begun to rise as a fledgling nation with a comparatively small but extremely efficient military, under the auspices of the somewhat insane Bretonian ex-pat, Grand Admiral McIntosh.
Under his terrifying leadership, supported by a core of less insane, more reliable officers and pilots, the SCRA aims to violently bring about a Communist revolution in Sirius.
Interestingly, whilst being recorded as being cold and clinically ruthless in many cases, the SCRA are known for not firing upon civilian targets unless fired upon first.
Generally, the SCRA are equipped with equipment available to the Xenos, Zoners and civilians, although they have access to a dwindling arms cache from an old agreement with the Corsairs. They were also aided in constructing an Osiris by Order techs in exchange for military aid against the Slomon K'Hara, Bounty Hunters and Liberty forces, whilst another Osiris class defected to them from the Corsair Brotherhood.
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Categories: Paramilitary organisations | Socialist and communist organisations
Coalition NPC faction - chopper - 08-14-2008
Quote:Think of the Coalition as nomads with pink faces and a repetiore of terrible jokes.
These are your words and this sentence is the exact reason why I can't see the Order being neutral to you.
And don't take my questions as a firefight, I'm nearly asking questions.
If you'd like, we can continue this in the feedback thread.
Coalition NPC faction - Koolmo - 08-14-2008
I meant in terms of being a force that isn't fighting a personal war, or really trying to gain anything. They don't WANT to shoot the military, or the police. They're doing it to save the people from themselves. It was meant to illustrate the point that they cannot be bought off or convinced to hold a ceasefire, because this is the equivilant of a crusade for them, it's their only purpose for being.
And yes, this might be better off in feedback..
Coalition NPC faction - Jinx - 08-14-2008
"Noted; another good point. However, Phantoms get by great in spite of this. "
the phantoms diplomacy appears to be in deep sleep. - they are about as active as a hibernating bear. ( active in terms of what impact they have on the people of the server - they occasionally pvp and the only noticable things they did were "educational roleplay" raids on diamond / niobium traders )
i think the coalition should get a more political agenda. - we are getting a bit too many "kill everything"-special factions. its getting old. - i m missing the more interesting factions that are NOT based on pvp and killing others ( like junkers or zoners ) - we are a roleplay server, there is more than trading and killing.
Coalition NPC faction - Qunitinius~Verginix - 08-14-2008
' Wrote:Today there was a 5-man SCRA battlegroup running around, looking for some substantial enemy force to engage for the glory of the revolution.
I think this quote here emphasizes what Jinx is saying. They went searching for a fight, covering it with their basic faction RP.
I do agree with Jinx, we need less 'KILL' factions and more politically based ones. there is so much potential with the SCRA to become like this.
Verg
Coalition NPC faction - Turkish - 08-14-2008
Actually we sat in New Berlin spouting Pro-Coalition propaganda for sometime before moving on, we actually weren't looking so much for PvP, but for someone, anyone to interact with. Short of going to Liberty which would have resulted in nothing but PvP, which was not what we were aiming for in the raid there actually wasn't much going on unfortunately.
Coalition NPC faction - bluntpencil2001 - 08-14-2008
' Wrote:"Noted; another good point. However, Phantoms get by great in spite of this. "
the phantoms diplomacy appears to be in deep sleep. - they are about as active as a hibernating bear. ( active in terms of what impact they have on the people of the server - they occasionally pvp and the only noticable things they did were "educational roleplay" raids on diamond / niobium traders )
i think the coalition should get a more political agenda. - we are getting a bit too many "kill everything"-special factions. its getting old. - i m missing the more interesting factions that are NOT based on pvp and killing others ( like junkers or zoners ) - we are a roleplay server, there is more than trading and killing.
If you ask the LWB that we flew past on another occasion, we offered our sympathies to these revolutionary farmers without firing a shot.
Of course, one could apply a similar criticism to the RM, who shoot more things than we do, including traders. I wouldn't, though.